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Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:48 am
by djfeloe
Every time i am making a sub bass using Ableton's Operator (also with NI Massive) i get this popping sound when moving from one note to the next. ive tried putting the attack up and the release and also putting down the release but i still get this annoying popping sound.i have also messed with the length of the note but nothing. anyone else have or had this problem before? i can't figure it out and its driving me nuts :u:

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:51 am
by dickman69
u try EQ

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:58 am
by djfeloe
Yep tried that as well. its weird though because this just started happening recently (would say 3-4 months) didn't have this problem the whole year

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:58 am
by OfficialDAPT
Enable the glide function or make the attack time longer.
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Make sure the G is lit up and set the time next to it to like 50-100 probably. Also, set the voices to 1.

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:01 am
by djfeloe
ive tried that as well except turning the glide that high i usually set it to 5.59ms

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:07 am
by OfficialDAPT
I made you a subbass in this ableton project file, let me know if it still pops because then it might be something else rather than ableton.
http://www.mediafire.com/?k1zkkp3srvxhe37

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:54 am
by djfeloe
Alright ill check it out and let you know tomorrow :W:

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:36 am
by mixedbyLUSH
Add a little attack to Env 4, keeps it from popping. That and if you add a little release to it. Works really well for making a smoother sounding sub in massive.

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:49 am
by syrup
yeah, just turn up attack/release a little

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:48 pm
by Augment
johney wrote:yeah, just turn up attack/release a little
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Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:45 pm
by billy crystal meth
smoothing out the attach fixes it for me

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:12 pm
by Hircine
take that filter out, you don't need to filter a pure sine wave nor eq it, then add a bit of attack and release, the pop sound will go away. You don't need to compress it either.

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:46 pm
by drake89
Hircine wrote:take that filter out, you don't need to filter a pure sine wave nor eq it, then add a bit of attack and release, the pop sound will go away. You don't need to compress it either.
agreed with the compression bit, but I've had this same problem. In massive I never had any luck even after changing the envelopes. So I put two low pass filters at about 100hz in ableton and I embraced the pop. After filtering it sort of sounds like a pitched 808 kick, or whatever the sub sounds like in a lot of rap songs i listen to. I like it and it works for me.

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:13 pm
by Isley
adjusting adsr in the synth also sometimes doesn't help. If thats the case just resample and adjust the adsr in a sampler. And make it monophonic

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:27 pm
by Artie_Fufkin
Use a pop filter

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:59 am
by syrup
too mainstream

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:09 am
by djfeloe
OfficialDAPT wrote:I made you a subbass in this ableton project file, let me know if it still pops because then it might be something else rather than ableton.
http://www.mediafire.com/?k1zkkp3srvxhe37
yo i tried it out but im still getting a slight pop after releasing a key. :baby:
Anybody else have an idea :u:

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:26 am
by Gravehill
Lowpass

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:31 pm
by mromgwtf
djfeloe wrote:
OfficialDAPT wrote:I made you a subbass in this ableton project file, let me know if it still pops because then it might be something else rather than ableton.
http://www.mediafire.com/?k1zkkp3srvxhe37
yo i tried it out but im still getting a slight pop after releasing a key. :baby:
Anybody else have an idea :u:
Maybe that's your audio settings?
Try changing buffer size in settings.

Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:43 pm
by VirtualMark
The problem with turning up the release of the sub, is that your sub notes can sometimes overlap if you're using lots of synths, causing a spike in the output and possible clipping or distortion. Ideally sub bass should be fairly tight and controlled as it takes up a lot of headroom.

What i do is to make my basses, duplicate the tracks and make a sine patch for each bass. Then render to audio and manually fade the ends of the sub out - this way i can both make sure there's no overlap and also get rid of any clicks.