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Creating gibberish

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:27 am
by zerox12
this is my first post but this is my go to place when trying to figure stuff out (first time poster, long time reader ---ha)

ive trying searching for a thread about this and couldnt find one, i dont know if it is because i just dont know what to search for or its just incredibly easy and im just so clueless

im trying to make some "gibberish". i dont know really know what to do. from what ive learned by searching is to use a'capella samples and just chop it up(?) but when i listen to songs that use "gibberish", there are different octaves and what seems like a lot of variations of the sample.

my question is; what do i need to know to create this, it seems very easy but am i missing something? are there certain vsts i need? (note im on a mac)

i dont want to point anyone out on this forum but i did find at least one song that attempt to do it, and it didnt really come out so good...

if you dont know what im talking about here are a couple of songs that use gibberish as a sample. (is gibberish the correct term for it?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVxPmuQqjBY
https://soundcloud.com/isleofsilas/silas-we-are-gods

Re: Creating gibberish

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:34 am
by Brothulhu
Just take your sample and stretch/pitch/fuck with it till it sounds cool then chop it up, repeat this till you have loads of different sounding chops then assemble in a way that sounds good (thats how I would do it atleast)

You can pitch them manually or by using a VST like Melodyne or FL's NewTone

Re: Creating gibberish

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:14 am
by 123kidd
LOL at 'gibberish'

but yes what brothulhu said. it would help us if we knew what daw you were using as well. if you use ableton, slice to midi is your friend :W:
Also important and goes without saying but make sure that your sample is in key as well.

Re: Creating gibberish

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:37 am
by dotcurrency
Vocal cuts


And yeah the others above me told you what to do. Now, what I've always wondered is how do people manage to cut and pitch them to sound so melodic.

Re: Creating gibberish

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:37 am
by NinjaEdit
It's also called "vocal science." You can re-pitch the different bits.

Re: Creating gibberish

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:59 am
by zerox12
thanks everyone !
123kidd wrote:LOL at 'gibberish'

but yes what brothulhu said. it would help us if we knew what daw you were using as well. if you use ableton, slice to midi is your friend :W:
Also important and goes without saying but make sure that your sample is in key as well.

i am using logic

jonahmann wrote:It's also called "vocal science." You can re-pitch the different bits.

are there any good vsts for that ? the ones Brothulhu posted are for pc only

Re: Creating gibberish

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:49 am
by RandoRando
I did exactly as you descirbed in this old track of mine op. It sounds like the voice is singing nonsense words, gibberish.
Soundcloud

i took some vocal samples of a girl singing random things, then i used slice to midi track (every transient) in ableton.

i then played samples after another, and used autotune to change the pitch.

done lou haa bang ba, er two look take around.

thats the chrous lol

Re: Creating gibberish

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:41 pm
by Shock Rx
Just to add to what everyone else said, some of this is just reiterating earlier points made. However you take a vocal clip or pretty much any sample you want. Make small chops and reaarange them. At this point just worry about putting the phrases you want in order. Once you've done that you can use melodyne to mess with pitch and formants. I personally don't mess with pitch in melodyne, just formants. Once I have it sounding nice, I will rechop some bits of it and pitch the individual samples. I think most of the time you hear this technique the vocals are cut from an acappella, however I think sometimes better results can be achieved if you record yourself or someone else making syllable type noises. If your using ableton this whole process is simple, like previously mentioned you can slice to midi, but I only do that once I have a decent chopped up portion. Also in ableton the teanspose knob in the clip editor is golden. Autotune is also used to achieve this effect, but not as often as one would think. It all comes down to solid editing skills imho

Re: Creating gibberish

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:07 pm
by 123kidd
This should be useful