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vocals to sound sooooooo thick?

doctah x wrote:vocals to sound sooooooo thick?

good question...

A nice, transparent compressor (LA2A?) and good mic placement?

panning.

TeReKeTe wrote:panning.

Yeah, just listened to it now...



It appears that it might be the old hard pan the same signal left and right with a tiny delay in just one of them. Gives you a super wide sound. Fools the ears. I've forgotten the name of the phenomenon now. It works, though.

I did the same thing to the vocals in my Real Mahatma remix.

two oh one wrote:

TeReKeTe wrote:panning.

Yeah, just listened to it now...



It appears that it might be the old hard pan the same signal left and right with a tiny delay in just one of them. Gives you a super wide sound. Fools the ears. I've forgotten the name of the phenomenon now. It works, though.

I did the same thing to the vocals in my Real Mahatma remix.

Does that not sound like its phasing?

Not if you put enough of a time gap between them.

It's not "cheat" double tracking, described above, it's the real thing. Spaceape is toasting the same thing twice, and Kode 9 is panning one left and one right. You can hear it because sometimes the two sides aren't exactly the same. He also autopans them and does all crazy shit with the two channels, so that things drift in and out of stereo, sometimes subtle, sometimes extreme left and right.

One of the tracks on the album has him doing both, the real way on the verse, and the cheat way on the chorus, and you can hear the difference. Think it might be Portal.

Pretty common in mixing vocals that are singing. Not so common in vocals that are doing what Spaceape is doing. And hence genius.

Yep, double-tracking, I think.

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did he use a sampler? and play the vocals back in a lower key? or has spaceape just got a really low voice? Cause is live vocals dont seem as low as the recordings..

Haven't seen em live but my guess is he's just talking quieter into the mic in the studio, more relaxed and all that, probably caned, giving his voice a different dynamic.

to get it even thicker you can do three takes and hard pan one left, one right and then keep one dead centre

put the volume of the hard panned tracks quite low and the one in the centre right up front in the mix

i have used this to get many a good outcome

Yup, its all about layering multiple takes.

Thats how a lot of people get vocals sounding so good.

That's how Freddie Mercury did it, and (regardless of your opinions of Queen music) he should know.

I remember hearing a sound engineer saying he could sing so accurately that occasionally the multiple takes would start to phase, and they had to make them "imperfect" in editing to stop it happening


Random aside over. Carry on!

gravious wrote:Yup, its all about layering multiple takes.

Thats how a lot of people get vocals sounding so good.

That's how Freddie Mercury did it, and (regardless of your opinions of Queen music) he should know.

I remember hearing a sound engineer saying he could sing so accurately that occasionally the multiple takes would start to phase, and they had to make them "imperfect" in editing to stop it happening


Random aside over. Carry on!

Random? Yes.

Interesting? Extremely.

Osk wrote:

gravious wrote:Yup, its all about layering multiple takes.

Thats how a lot of people get vocals sounding so good.

That's how Freddie Mercury did it, and (regardless of your opinions of Queen music) he should know.

I remember hearing a sound engineer saying he could sing so accurately that occasionally the multiple takes would start to phase, and they had to make them "imperfect" in editing to stop it happening


Random aside over. Carry on!

Random? Yes.

Interesting? Extremely.

Thats fucking amazing...Mercury really was a freak vocalist.