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Just I came this link;

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jar ... s?ref=live

Where the guy got himself $3.5k off the back of posting a few YouTube videos and a link to his Soundcloud account (currently 21 followers)

Not the only example of folk getting cash money to produce Dubstep, so was wondering if anyone on here had any success/thoughts?

Why would people give money for someone to buy new equipment ?

Philanthropy? There are a lot of different projects on that site, that's just one that was relevant.

Yeah obviously there are great things that deserve to be supported, but if a guy wants to make an album why not get a summer job and pay for it yourself ?

Hard to say...a lot of this has the don't ask, don't get mentality about it. If something exists that allows people the choice to donate money to strangers, then why not take advantage of it?

19 ppl = $3501?

wat

Seems a pretty legit way to make some money if you find people willing to donate. Thought it might be the sort of thing that would appear to some of the more entrepreneurial folk on here.

Though I get the feeling a good chunk of the userbase probably thinks entrepreneurial is the name of a torrent engine.

Oh i wasn't trying to be a dick by the way lol

I just find it pretty mind blowing that someone would actually put a video up and ask for money to buy vsts and a computer lol

billybuxton wrote:Oh i wasn't trying to be a dick by the way lol

No worries

billybuxton wrote:I just find it pretty mind blowing that someone would actually put a video up and ask for money to buy vsts and a computer lol

There are other sites that specialise in computing start ups...this is just a variation on those. With it being creative, it's not like someone is investing in stock options.

And if you don't get the full amount, you get nothing - so not like people can rinse it for unrealistic amounts and then walk away with whatever is donated unless they get all of it.

Interesting scenario here but imagine if the guy who raised this money suddenly became the next skrillex in terms of production and fame

Do you think the fact that he didn't "make it" on his own impact how the dubstep scene and fellow producers perceive him ?

billybuxton wrote:Interesting scenario here but imagine if the guy who raised this money suddenly became the next skrillex in terms of production and fame

Do you think the fact that he didn't "make it" on his own impact how the dubstep scene and fellow producers perceive him ?

Money & gear doesn't necessarily equate to talent though.

Would it be any different if someone made a number one hit with cracked software vs. saving up 10yrs of paper round money to buy some studio time?

I've worked on a couple of kickstarter-funded projects recently. It's an interesting thing, one which is only growing.

currently kickstarter's success rate is just under 44%-- so that means that just under 60% DON'T get funded.

both of the projects i've been involved with were over-funded; one to about 110%, the other to almost 200%. They were basically run by smart people with some esoteric ideas that were able to rally a community behind them who wanted to see the work completed. One is an album project-- the artist had, at that point, a really fun collection of esoteric songs, and wanted to make a fantastic record of them. He'd had success as an actor and, while not a household name, had alot of fans of peers who liked his music and wanted it to do well. He was able to raise enough money to hire musicians, studio time in an excellent studio, a (ahem) producer, pay for string arrangements, get proper mixes, masters, manufacturing, distribution.

Chances are this record would have gotten made anyway; kickstarter saved him time, trauma, and created a network of people who are ALREADY invested in it, ALREADY want to see it do well, ALREADY want to tell their friends about it.

similar to the film project i'm working on-- the producers are smart folks who want this done in their own way, w/o compromise, and on their budgets of time and money. Turns out a lot of folks want to see this done in that way as well.

To make it work, you have to have a compelling product, a good story behind it, and be able to rally enough folks who want to see it succeed. Plenty of good things DON'T succeed because they're too under-the-radar-- i gladly funded a project $100 that was going to completely revolutionize the way tablas are made and tuned, which would save me untold hours. Not enough people reacted to the campaign, it didn't find its audience, nothing happened.

a few years ago, a close friend of mine-- who'd already been successful as a comic artist-- wanted to avoid the publishing world, and made an effort to put out his 2nd book self-published, with funding via kickstarter. He did weekly blogs, made videos of how he did the inkwork, etc, and kept everyone up to date on the project. Ultimately his campaign was so successful, kickstarter used it as a model for how things can work.... very cool.

So yeah-- it comes down to having an awesome product, and finding connections to people who want to see that product made.

(how many debut dubstep records are going to be awesome products?)

Only way I would support a artist on kickstarter is to help them fund getting their release.

Marcus wrote:Only way I would support a artist on kickstarter is to help them fund getting their release.

Like towards vinyl pressing?

There is an Ambient artist...think he goes by Ben Steed...I chatted up a bit on IDMf who did a kick starter to get his next album printed on CDs/album art and I think mebe a bit for gear for the new album...dunno how that went, but pretty sure he printed the CDs.

I think there is room for it...personally I wouldn't go about asking for money for gear...but it'd be a nice way to do a pre-sales for a run of vinyl or dubplates w/o loosing your ass completely. If it falls through to the point you don't want to invest the money, I'm sure there is a way to give the money back.

wub wrote:

Marcus wrote:Only way I would support a artist on kickstarter is to help them fund getting their release.

Like towards vinyl pressing?

Pretty much, a lot of great tunes never see the light of day.

hey guys btw i just set up this kickstarter account check it out ^__^

its called "ray's dont have to work fund"

rayman612 wrote:hey guys btw i just set up this kickstarter account check it out ^__^

its called "ray's dont have to work fund"

I'd donate, but I've already given to this;

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/461 ... death-star

who gets the money if it dont reach 20 mil?

or does every1 just get their money back

^ projects only get funded if the pledges reach or exceed the stated goal. If they dont, no one pays anything.