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Resampling reverbs along with bass

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:09 pm
by sloth
im in the process of resampling basses and im wondering if its a bad idea to resample the reverb that the track is being sent to directly into the same audio clip that the bass is in. i can see how this might be a bit limiting by commiting to the reverb and could make any additional processing kinda muddy. with this being said, does anyone have a good strategy for dealing with this? i was thinking about just bouncing the sends down and having a audio track that is just the synth reverb.

Re: Resampling reverbs along with bass

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:10 pm
by sloth
along these lines, i just wanted to know how you all deal with bouncing send fx to audio. since most sends have multipul channels being routed to them, its seems kinda tricky to keep everything clean and organized when bouncing...

Re: Resampling reverbs along with bass

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:29 pm
by Genevieve
I sometimes do it but the only reason I add that reverb, as a send, is to widen up the signal. I take out most of the lows and highs and maybe add a flanger or chorus too to give it some moment. And it's not a wet/long reverb. So when you resample that, to my ears it stops being a reverb and kind of meshes into the greater signal. Especially when you keep processing it. But when I do resample, it's the whoole thing (reverb+dry signal). It's safe to add reverb to that again later.

Reverb should never under any circumstances add muddiness unless it's the effect you desire.

This is one of those things where it's a matter of 'do it if it sounds good' tbh.

Re: Resampling reverbs along with bass

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:41 pm
by sunny_b_uk
Genevieve wrote:This is one of those things where it's a matter of 'do it if it sounds good' tbh.
this

Re: Resampling reverbs along with bass

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:01 pm
by Today
i don't for the same reasons i don't track stuff wet. If i need to do a quick edit, I can't really make a clean splice and have it sound natural if all the audio's wet already. And if i need or want to take a clipping and manipulate it in order to create an ending, transition, or whatever, the reverb will get nicked off or be where i don't want it to. IMO time-based effects are usually best left for the final mixdown. I stick with sends and inserts in the mix for verb and delay.

if you wanted to do this, you can just route your aux send to a new audio track via another send (make this one pre-fader) arm it to record and press record over the pass. The resulting recording is only going to be a cut of the reverb unit's output. you can do this with instrument(s) soloed, or i guess with the whole mix running. But at that point i don't really see any point in doing it.

on the other hand, resampling heavy reverb tails during sound design is pretty great and kind of a standard line of working. try saturating/compressing great big long verb tails and printing that to a new audio track, clip it out and load it into a sampler. nice atmospheres, pads, SFX, keys, whatever really.

Re: Resampling reverbs along with bass

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:07 pm
by ieatfunk
I agree with what Today said. If you need to edit, it's gonna sound obvious it's cut. If something in the track sounds like it needs some 'verb, add it once you've resampled.

But, of course, like Genevieve said "do it if it sounds good"
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