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Matching Peaks?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:16 am
by dayghost
Hey guys,

This one isn't music related, but I figured this would be the best place to ask.

I'm about to record ADR for a film I'm working on (replacement audio for audio that wasn't recorded well on set). We are going to have the actors come in to re-record the new audio in studio and match it as best as we can to their lips in the video. I know we can get pretty close to matching, but never perfect.

This made me wonder, can I take the new audio clips we record and match the peaks of the original audio to give us a perfect sync? Working in ableton.

Re: Matching Peaks?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:39 am
by dickman69
would prob get u pretty close at least i imagine

Re: Matching Peaks?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:15 am
by outbound
It makes sense to use as a starting point and then use your ears to get it tighter in time.

Re: Matching Peaks?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:42 pm
by Dj Rephlex
outbound wrote:It makes sense to use as a starting point and then use your ears to get it tighter in time.
Exactly. Any producer will tell you to use some kind of analyzer etc.. to get yourself in the ball park. Your ears are your most reliable tool.

Re: Matching Peaks?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:48 pm
by Samuel_L_Damnson
Nah i have never used any kind of analyser. I did this for coursework in uni and matching it using your eyes and ears is deffo the best way. :)

Re: Matching Peaks?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:12 pm
by Hircine
Dj Rephlex wrote:
outbound wrote:It makes sense to use as a starting point and then use your ears to get it tighter in time.
Exactly. Any producer will tell you to use some kind of analyzer etc.. to get yourself in the ball park. Your ears are your most reliable tool.
What kind of analyzer would a producer/engineer use to match audio to video rather than his eyes and ears? :lol:

Re: Matching Peaks?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:33 pm
by Dj Rephlex
Hircine wrote:
Dj Rephlex wrote:
outbound wrote:It makes sense to use as a starting point and then use your ears to get it tighter in time.
Exactly. Any producer will tell you to use some kind of analyzer etc.. to get yourself in the ball park. Your ears are your most reliable tool.
What kind of analyzer would a producer/engineer use to match audio to video rather than his eyes and ears? :lol:
Oh I didn't see that it was audio to video. :dunce: disreguard my irrelevant input.

Re: Matching Peaks?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:50 pm
by dickman69
Sinestepper wrote:Nah i have never used any kind of analyser. I did this for coursework in uni and matching it using your eyes and ears is deffo the best way. :)
lol burn

Re: Matching Peaks?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:12 pm
by skimpi
dayghost wrote:Hey guys,

This one isn't music related, but I figured this would be the best place to ask.

I'm about to record ADR for a film I'm working on (replacement audio for audio that wasn't recorded well on set). We are going to have the actors come in to re-record the new audio in studio and match it as best as we can to their lips in the video. I know we can get pretty close to matching, but never perfect.

This made me wonder, can I take the new audio clips we record and match the peaks of the original audio to give us a perfect sync? Working in ableton.
I dont know, but i have to do ADR for uni, and we were told some programs that can actually do this. I think its called Vocalign. This is what I have noted down but it might be another program, but i wrote next to it that its for tightening up dialog haha. But yeah they said that you can use the original audio and then align the new ones to it.

Re: Matching Peaks?

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:24 am
by Crimsonghost
Heh, nvmd. Brain too tired to work...