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North Korea conflict imminent?

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:50 pm
by wub
Anyone getting worried by this, or world's media just blowing it out of proportion?
BBC wrote:Russia has warned of tensions in North Korea slipping out of control, after Pyongyang said it was placing its missile units on stand-by.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov warned the situation could slip "toward the spiral of a vicious circle".

Kim Jong-un made the missile order after talks responding to US stealth bomber flights over the Korean peninsula, state news agency KCNA said.

The time had come to "settle accounts" with the US, KCNA quoted him as saying.

Annual military drills and fresh UN sanctions have angered North Korea.

After a late-night meeting with the army's strategic rocket force, Kim Jong-un "judged the time has come to settle accounts with the US imperialists", KCNA reported.

He was said to have condemned US B-2 bomber sorties over South Korea as a "reckless phase" that represented an "ultimatum that they will ignite a nuclear war at any cost on the Korean Peninsula".

US mainland and bases in Hawaii, Guam and South Korea were all named as potential targets.

The US - which flew two stealth bombers over the peninsula on Thursday as part of the ongoing annual US-South Korea military drills - has said it is ready for "any eventuality" on the peninsula.
CNN wrote: North Korea's leader approved a plan to prepare standby rockets to hit U.S. targets, state media said Friday, after American stealth bombers carried out a practice mission over South Korea.

In a meeting with military leaders early Friday, Kim Jong Un "said he has judged the time has come to settle accounts with the U.S. imperialists in view of the prevailing situation," the state-run KCNA news agency reported.

The rockets are aimed at U.S. targets, including military bases in the Pacific and in South Korea, it said.

"If they make a reckless provocation with huge strategic forces, (we) should mercilessly strike the U.S. mainland, their stronghold, their military bases in the operational theaters in the Pacific, including Hawaii and Guam, and those in South Korea," KCNA reported.
Reuters wrote:KCNA said North Korea and the United States could only settle their differences by "physical means". The North has an arsenal of Soviet-era short-range Scud missiles that can hit South Korea but its longer-range Nodong and Musudan missiles, which could in theory hit U.S. Pacific bases, are untested.


China, the North's sole major ally, repeated its calls for restraint on the Korean peninsula at a regular Foreign Ministry briefing and made no criticism of the U.S. flights.

"We hope that relevant parties will work together in pushing for a turnaround of the tense situation," ministry spokesman Hong Lei told reporters.

Tension has been high since North Korea conducted a third nuclear weapons test in February in breach of U.N. sanctions and despite warnings from China for it not to do so.

Russia's foreign minister implicitly criticised the U.S. bomber flights.

"We are concerned that alongside the adequate, collective reaction of the U.N. Security Council, unilateral action is being taken around North Korea that is increasing military activity," Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said.

Not looking too good if they don't back down.

Re: North Korea conflict imminent?

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:54 pm
by SCope13
Even if they do anything, America will just democracy the fuck out of them.



But I think it's all way over hyped. Distracts us from actual problems and things that really need being feared.

Re: North Korea conflict imminent?

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:55 pm
by hugh
they shouldnt start shit that they have no hope of finishing tbh. I doubt a single one of their missiles would get through before receiving a butt-ton of countermeasures.

Re: North Korea conflict imminent?

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:56 pm
by dickman69
i think the syria situation is more important

north korea can just talk shit as long as they want its fucking dumb

Re: North Korea conflict imminent?

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:08 pm
by kay
Seems to me North Korea is in the pocket of the economic capitalists. If they kick shit off, America goes into war footing and all economic woes become conveniently forgotten for a few years.

Re: North Korea conflict imminent?

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:20 pm
by Sonika
a bunch of attention whores

Re: North Korea conflict imminent?

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:21 pm
by topmo3
i dont know much about history but hasn't something like this happened several times before as well? so dont get your knickers in a bunch just yet

Re: North Korea conflict imminent?

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:30 pm
by nowaysj
The NK situation is very different than other prior conflict areas. NK is a nuclear armed country, they are one of only a few countries to launch a satellite into orbit, they have a fanatical/heavily controlled population, they have massive countrywide underground preparations to thwart invasion, their leader took power at age 28 and is now 30, the son of an arguable psychopath, he is revered as a demigod, NK shares a border with China, and is essentially a puppet state of China, NK has massive distributed offensive armaments aimed at Seoul, a major world city with a population of 10 million.

The situation is different, far more threatening, and is becoming more unstable every day. I think the severity of this situation is under reported.

See ww3 thread.

Re: North Korea conflict imminent?

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:46 pm
by ezza
who would win in a fight between that part of the world n our part tho

like would it be a bad war or would america n england just fuck them up

i know nothing about this shit :6:

Re: North Korea conflict imminent?

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:51 pm
by arktrix45hz
SCope13 wrote:Even if they do anything, America will just democracy the fuck out of them.
Be good to see them try that if NK uses an EMP weapon. :W:

Re: North Korea conflict imminent?

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:07 pm
by SignalRecon
North Korea would get crushed if a global effort (ww3) was organized post-launch and Russia did'nt support them.. I wonder if russia would deffend them?

Re: North Korea conflict imminent?

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:20 pm
by OneCallSystem
A nuke can do much more damage to a nation if it is used as an EMP. If you detonate a nuke in space with no atmosphere, say 50 miles up, the explosion triggers electrical surges that will destroy all electrical circuits and devices within eye site of the explosion. If I were going to send a nuke off I would do this instead of have it detonate on the ground. The consequences of having all the electricity in the entire US knocked out would decimate the population, as we are immediately dependent on the electrical grid/transportation of goods for survival.

http://www.fas.org/nuke/intro/nuke/emp.htm

Nuclear Weapon EMP Effects

A high-altitude nuclear detonation produces an immediate flux of gamma rays from the nuclear reactions within the device. These photons in turn produce high energy free electrons by Compton scattering at altitudes between (roughly) 20 and 40 km. These electrons are then trapped in the Earth�s magnetic field, giving rise to an oscillating electric current. This current is asymmetric in general and gives rise to a rapidly rising radiated electromagnetic field called an electromagnetic pulse (EMP). Because the electrons are trapped essentially simultaneously, a very large electromagnetic source radiates coherently.
The pulse can easily span continent-sized areas, and this radiation can affect systems on land, sea, and air. The first recorded EMP incident accompanied a high-altitude nuclear test over the South Pacific and resulted in power system failures as far away as Hawaii. A large device detonated at 400�500 km over Kansas would affect all of CONUS. The signal from such an event extends to the visual horizon as seen from the burst point.

http://www.amazon.com/One-Second-After- ... 0765356864

A really good book about this exact situation I highly recommend. The premise is an EMP detonates over the continental US, and then people deal with the consequences. What is very scary about the story, is if an EMP did go down, most of the shit in this book wouldn't be far from the truth. 99.9% of circuitry in the US cannot withstand the kind of surge a nuclear EMP would emit.

Re: North Korea conflict imminent?

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:25 pm
by nowaysj
S'why you keep your critical communications and solar power generation gear in faraday cages.

Re: North Korea conflict imminent?

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:39 pm
by deadly_habit
SignalRecon wrote:North Korea would get crushed if a global effort (ww3) was organized post-launch and Russia did'nt support them.. I wonder if russia would deffend them?
I think even China has been distancing themselves from NK with all the shit talking and posturing they've been doing.
They're pretty much on their own.

Re: North Korea conflict imminent?

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:43 pm
by hugh
deadly habit wrote:
SignalRecon wrote:North Korea would get crushed if a global effort (ww3) was organized post-launch and Russia did'nt support them.. I wonder if russia would deffend them?
I think even China has been distancing themselves from NK with all the shit talking and posturing they've been doing.
They're pretty much on their own.
China has declared it's stance on the matter already by not condemning the US Stealth runs. China has also reached a sort of economic plateau and needs to strengthen bonds with America and the West in order to continue it's economic growth.

Re: North Korea conflict imminent?

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:56 pm
by timmyyabas
if i was nk i would be getting pissed off too. the only stnuc ever to have used a nuke keep telling me i can't have one because i can't be trusted not to use it, meanwhile the stnuc are flying planes capable of dropping nukes on my ass overhead.

Re: North Korea conflict imminent?

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:23 pm
by dickman69
Because their leader is an insane child

Re: North Korea conflict imminent?

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:24 pm
by dickman69
Also as long as dennis rodmans in america i feel safe from complete destruction

Re: North Korea conflict imminent?

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:25 pm
by nowaysj
Dennis is our missile defense shield.

Re: North Korea conflict imminent?

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:34 pm
by timmyyabas
he's 30, hardly a child and we have no idea about his mental state.

also, yous previously had a trigger happy monkey in charge for 8 years straight.