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Programming Tom Rolls...

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:48 am
by SMOR3S
So for Tom Rolls, I cut 3-6 exact samples, of whatever tom I am using, and pitch each one down a few semitones?... This is what I do, when I do juggles, so I presume, it's the same concept :/ I have been trying to wrap my head around this, for a few days now, looked at a few tutorials, and a few threads, but what I don't understand, is the programming, and how they are spaced... If someone can shine some light on this, that would be awesome... Perhaps sleep is blocking my thought process, :|

Here is an example... @ 1:08

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrFzQAU6s-U

Re: Programming Tom Rolls...

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:10 am
by shakas
the roll in that example sounds like a pretty straight forward 16th note roll. all the hits are right after each other on the 1/16 grid.
something like this:
midtom, midtom, lowtom, lowtom, midtom, midtom, lowtom, lowtom, midtom, midtom, lowtom, lowtom, floortom, floortom, snare, snare, kick+crash

also sounded like he brought the volume up while it was playing.

Re: Programming Tom Rolls...

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:40 am
by SMOR3S
shakas wrote:the roll in that example sounds like a pretty straight forward 16th note roll. all the hits are right after each other on the 1/16 grid.
something like this:
midtom, midtom, lowtom, lowtom, midtom, midtom, lowtom, lowtom, midtom, midtom, lowtom, lowtom, floortom, floortom, snare, snare, kick+crash

also sounded like he brought the volume up while it was playing.
I was actually experimenting in the meantime... I tried 4 toms, all hitting twice... semitone 0, -3, -5 , and -7... It's all the same tom, but I could try doing mid, low, and floor...

Re: Programming Tom Rolls...

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:55 am
by shakas
w0rd...anything could work really. you could hit 4 different ones from highest to lowest one time each...instead of two, twice... or whatever

it's kinda hard for me to explain any proper way to do rolls cuz they're a very customizable thing ... you just kind of imagine what ever you wanna hear and make it happen :D

Re: Programming Tom Rolls...

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:06 am
by SMOR3S
shakas wrote:w0rd...anything could work really. you could hit 4 different ones from highest to lowest one time each...instead of two, twice... or whatever

it's kinda hard for me to explain any proper way to do rolls cuz they're a very customizable thing ... you just kind of imagine what ever you wanna hear and make it happen :D
for sure... thanks though, your wise words of wisdom helped :W:

Re: Programming Tom Rolls...

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:02 pm
by AxeD
Tap em out live. With velocity differences obviously.

Re: Programming Tom Rolls...

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:25 pm
by mthrfnk

Re: Programming Tom Rolls...

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:38 pm
by blinx
AxeD wrote:Tap em out live. With velocity differences obviously.
+1 for velocity.

OR sample the tom fill from this:

Re: Programming Tom Rolls...

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:54 pm
by drake89
blinx wrote:
AxeD wrote:Tap em out live. With velocity differences obviously.
+1 for velocity.

OR sample the tom fill from this:
dat gated reverb.

Re: Programming Tom Rolls...

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:00 am
by Huts

Re: Programming Tom Rolls...

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:36 pm
by ieatfunk
1up for posting that video ^^^

It's a good vid. Writing in fills is such a hard thing to do. I'll spend an hour trying to write a decent groove or fill and it'll sound shit and I'll wanna kill myself. Then I'll sit down the next day in front of my Maschine Mikro and I'll writing something I love in 5 minutes.
Basically, I think you have to 'feel da groove' and you'll know where to place the beats just through experience of making and listening to music.

I like the idea of pitching drums instead of trawling through shit sample packs to find hi, mid, low and floor toms that work together!

Re: Programming Tom Rolls...

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:54 pm
by rockonin
I use BFD2 for the tom fills. Use the acoustic toms that come with the software, find a decent pattern from the grooves list, then export the tom fills as audio, then combine it with my regular drums. Like a glove!

Re: Programming Tom Rolls...

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:58 am
by hifi
edit: 16th notes, just tapped it out, not hard to figure out w/in a daw, much easier than actually playing it