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every1 can makes a wobble bass nowadays but who also makes burial kinda tracks. Dubstep with 2step/garage influences ? im tryin and its also working. Trying to fix a little ep with that kinda flow, but are there more people who tryin it ? how do you experience it ? how do you make it your own tune cause most of the people will say quickly its a burial copy

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Dunno mate, I slept on dubstep for waaaay too long but it was Burial's album that got me wanting to make it myself (well, Vex'd too). So that's the direction I'm aiming at but I'm still miles off the mark. Everything I come up with right now sounds like grime. Boy knows what he's doing. And IMO listens to far too much Photek.

maybe i wanna try a collabo with some1 who wanna search samples/tools/ideas and make a little EP or something. Cause i already have a beginning but the motivation is hard to get with this somehow

Roqqert wrote:Dubstep with 2step/garage influences ?

Y'know, the fact that people have to specify that makes me a little sad.

there words no music...nothing is sure

there is only one burial. make new music.

Misk wrote:there is only one burial. make new music.

WORD!

Slothrop wrote:

Roqqert wrote:Dubstep with 2step/garage influences ?

Y'know, the fact that people have to specify that makes me a little sad.

haha took the words out of my mouth.... seeing as dubstep is actually 2-step/garage with dub/minimalist/jungalist/etc influences, not the other way around... what we have here is a lack of perspective on the historical trajectory of this sound..


and I wouldn't really say that burial sounds like garage or 2-step in the traditional sense - maybe the rhythmic skeleton of 2-step is somewhere at the root of the sound but theres a whole lot of new textures going on in that mans music

when I think of burial I think of absinthe and opium not champagne and coke...

Roqqert wrote:every1 can makes a wobble bass nowadays but who also makes burial kinda tracks. Dubstep with 2step/garage influences ? im tryin and its also working. Trying to fix a little ep with that kinda flow, but are there more people who tryin it ? how do you experience it ? how do you make it your own tune cause most of the people will say quickly its a burial copy

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i think chances are if you're not over-thinking the process your tunes will sound very different from burial anyway...

Auan wrote: And IMO listens to far too much Photek.

I said this ages ago and got flamed for it.

I do know what you mean. His older stuff anyway not the new shit.

Burial has openly said that Photek is one of his great influences. You can hear it in all his tunes I think.

Not a bad influence, let's be honest...

Dunno why you'd get flamed for it, first thing I thought of when I heard it. And I'm probably lining myself up real good here.

Osk wrote:Burial has openly said that Photek is one of his great influences. You can hear it in all his tunes I think.

Not a bad influence, let's be honest...

I also bloody quoted him saying it. I still got flamed though

Misk wrote:there is only one burial. make new music.

thats like saying : theres only 1 skream, benga, loefah, etc.

but i see here all kinda copyers on this forum so why cant i be influenced by burial ?

I haven't really seen anyone on the board naysaying up-and-coming producers styles on some "oh you just sound like so and so pish posh" type shit ... trying to emulate a style can be somewhat educational, as long as its not like you're completely biting someones tunes and getting some sort of fame from it (not that there's much fame in dubstep apart from scene points)...

do whatever the fuck you want roqq! don't listen to what folks on a message board say (even though I really haven't seen anyone saying this type of thing)...

now get off the internets and go make some tunes

Jolly Wailer wrote:
now get off the internets and go make some tunes

metalboxproducts wrote:

Osk wrote:Burial has openly said that Photek is one of his great influences. You can hear it in all his tunes I think.

Not a bad influence, let's be honest...

I also bloody quoted him saying it. I still got flamed though

You got flamed cause you're a bellend, not because of the quote

I don't really think it sounds that much like Photek because Burial is more raw in the rhythms whereas Photek was ridiculously precise in his drum programming - just goes to show that being influenced by something and trying to sound like it are two very different things. I think that sort of melancholic ambience brings to mind some of FSOL's music - there's a very similar vibe in say Papua New Guinea as there is in some of Burial's work.

Something that really strikes me about the sounds in Burial's tunes is how they're not really upfront and really well designed in the way that the usual anal-obsessive producers stuff is. A lot of them don't sound like they've been altered much from the original sample, sound quite muffled etc. Diamonds from shit I think.

Listen to the actual melodies and pads, and you'd be hard pushed to figure out what the source of them are. If he was doing all this in soundforge that would indicate that these are just samples effected and then pasted in but I figure using a melody that isn't necessarily mixed to the forefront actually allows a lot of the tune to hang together in more of a subliminal way where it's more about distant voices and sounds than mix perfection. Which is why he's so fucking good obviously

Soundforge and X amount of pro mastering.
Git down to your freindly local graveyard for some excellent burial type samples-all your favs ,such as 'ashes to ashes ,dust to dust'-'shovel,shovel,bury ,bury-'Christ ,its hot in here'-and 'Sh*t,I think they got the wrong guy'.

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Shonky wrote:Burial is more raw in the rhythms whereas Photek was ridiculously precise in his drum programming

You're telling me that chopping up samples of a gun being loaded and shells hitting the ground so that it becomes a 4 bar percussion loop (on Exit Wounds) isn't ridiculously precise?

I never said he was outright copying Photek. I just hear a massive similarity between the vibes on Photek's first two LPs and Burial's records. Not worth fighting about.

Auan wrote:

Shonky wrote:Burial is more raw in the rhythms whereas Photek was ridiculously precise in his drum programming

You're telling me that chopping up samples of a gun being loaded and shells hitting the ground so that it becomes a 4 bar percussion loop (on Exit Wounds) isn't ridiculously precise?

It's a 4 bar loop though innit - listen to Hidden Camera ep and do the same for four songs

Most of Burials drums are done as loops that come in and out of the mix, it's a big difference between that and Photek at his best. Not saying better, just completely different ballpark. Squarepusher's drums are highly complex, but that doesn't stop the majority of his work being noodly, muso shite