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Man speaking sense.

I remember the same argument about Porn going VHS
I remember the same argument about Porn going DVD
I remember the same argument about Porn going Internet
Things move on but Porn will always remain.

Maybe if you're playing shitty dnb and dubstep like hype

It's getting more popular outside of electronic music.

And I honestly think parts of the house and techno scene still draws a lot of vinyl. How the fuck is phonica still open and employing three people behind the counter to serve a busy store if that isn't the case?

Also saying that a 320kbps mp3 is an advancement over vinyl is fucking retarded.

Who's playing vinyl out? Blawan, Theo Parrish, Floating Points, Kahn, Pinch, Kowton (when I saw him at least). Dj Hype is a shit dj anyway who isn't remotely relevant anymore who cares if your mates aren't?

All the record shops are closing? A new one just opened up in Plymouth a few months ago.

So I gotta pay.. to cut a dubplate?! What?! I don't cut dubplates no more bruv, I need em pee frees. Vinyl's dead, bruv!

Laszlo wrote:So I gotta pay.. to cut a dubplate?! What?! I don't cut dubplates no more bruv, I need em pee frees. Vinyl's dead, bruv!

Womp WompWompWomp!!!

Big tune!!!

Out to the heads that remember!!!

didn't think that'd get picked up on so quickly.

Memories of Fab & Groove radio 1

Tune was garbage though

Listening to it now... OMG

Its obvious he feels passionately about this. Unfortunately he sounds like a rambling crackhead + he makes jump up.

Laszlo wrote:Listening to it now... OMG

Follow it up with a where's my money for the full effect

southstar wrote:Memories of Fab & Groove radio 1

Tune was garbage though

jst posted this yesterday as well http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f ... 0#p3417614

tune is fuckin horrible, 'clownstep' at it's finest.

anyway, posted this vid earlier in the kahn thread and ppl disagree because it's kahn.

everything hype said was valid.

legend out.

wolf89 wrote:Who's playing vinyl out? Blawan, Theo Parrish, Floating Points, Kahn, Pinch, Kowton (when I saw him at least). Dj Hype is a shit dj anyway who isn't remotely relevant anymore who cares if your mates aren't?

Ben Sims I think too?

Laszlo wrote:So I gotta pay.. to cut a dubplate?! What?! I don't cut dubplates no more bruv, I need em pee frees. Vinyl's dead, bruv!

Was gonna post this myself

I loved a bit of Clipz a few years ago, no shame!

Liam92 wrote:

Laszlo wrote:So I gotta pay.. to cut a dubplate?! What?! I don't cut dubplates no more bruv, I need em pee frees. Vinyl's dead, bruv!

Was gonna post this myself

I loved a bit of Clipz a few years ago, no shame!

tbh. 'loud & dirty' and his hand grenade remix still gets pulled out the bag.

some of his stuff rly did deserve the slating it received at the time doe

Vinyl maybe dead
but it's corpse won't lie down.
I feel for the committed people who make & sell records for little profit
but the release of a good amount of indulgent crap doesn't help.
I understand my view is warped because I only go out to nights where I know vinyl will be played out...not many.

Music > format.

Digital's perfect.

Genevieve wrote:Music > format.

Digital's perfect.

Not really. I mean yeah a wav of a well mastered track is technically perfect. but it's honestly a ball ache more so for me than vinyl. Going to a store and buying a nicely mastered well packaged actual physical object is so much more preferable than wading through an online store and then having to download files. I have all my records on my shelves going back to when I first started buying them 10 years ago when I was 13 and can go over and pull them out and play them and remember loads of times in the past when I did so. Files on my hard drive get swamped and forgotten about then lost after just a couple months unless they're something extra special and happen to be on my phone constantly since I got them.

I love the historical aspect to records too. Unpopular music can be rediscovered years later as the physical copies exist where as tunes now will go lost in a sea of every tnuc with a laptop and a cracked version of massive thinking it's worthy of sale on Juno.

Not to mention the imperfect aspect of vinyl is desirable. it colours sound in a pleasing way to mine and many many many others' ears. Also entirely analogue produced albums surely should stay on an analogue format? Owning an original pressing (if it's a good pressing) is far more desirable than one that's been transferred to a different type of format that requires a translation from analogue to digital. That being said though even still if you get a well mastered vinyl release of a digitally made tune it still sounds best to me.

Factor in then the quality control aspect too with vinyl. It's a format that is set within physical constraints. You can't just plonk shit out there quite as badly as you can online. A good vinyl mastering engineer can make a record sound incredible and to even be in the position to master vinyl you actually need to know what you're doing

Then there's also all the people doing digital releases unavailable as Wav or Flac which in this day is pretty stupid as why use a lossy format at all? Especially when you download a rap mixtape and it's a fucking 128kbps file. Fuck that so much. I mean I can still enjoy the music but you're making it shitty on purpose. It's like buying a painting then only looking at it through sunglasses.

For me physical copies will always reign supreme. It's something you can experience and connect to a lot more easily. I can stand in front of a shelf with a couple thousand records to choose from and immediately see something and pull it out. I'll listen to the whole album and not skip it and it'll never get lost when a laptop dies. You get artwork, credits, a label to identify with etc. I still refuse to buy albums download wise. Vinyl, Cds or tapes every time unless it's unavailable or I'm buying single tracks for djing.

The music should speak for itself though. If the absence of a sleeve to look at while listening hinders your enjoyment of the music then maybe it wasn't such a great piece of music in the first place.

Music > Format

Genevieve wrote:Music > format.

Laszlo wrote:Music > Format

Music > Format

Laszlo wrote:The music should speak for itself though. If the absence of a sleeve to look at while listening hinders your enjoyment of the music then maybe it wasn't such a great piece of music in the first place.

Music > Format

No but when i hear a fucking nice beat on a hip hop album I like to see who produced it. I want to know to check more solar records stuff for more disco.

But mainly I like having to go over to the shelves pick out an album put it on and leave it not flick through itunes on shuffle or have to scroll through loads of fucking text to find something to listen to.

Obviously music is more important than format. Hence I will buy Lil Ugly Mane's man or put up with a dodgy 128kbps file of a cassette rip of an album too rare for me to own but given the choice I'd rather have a room full of high quality great sounding records that I can make the effort to pick up play on my great hi-fi with great cartridges vs an anonymous black box of lossy files that I can't remember the name of without looking through. I can think of many many times I've played the rock records I bought as a teenager on vinyl years ago and picture them in my head perfectly. Doesn't work with me being sat at a laptop or playing a cdr at all.