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'Liquid' Dubstep Producers!
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:32 am
by Bass_Jacka
I'm really into the more liquid, ambient chilled kind of dubstep at the moment - like Phaeleh for example. Right now I'm enjoying producing this kind of dubstep much more than brostep stuff.
I'm just after some recommendations of producers of this kind of dubstep to listen to for some inspiration in this area.
Also, are there any sample packs out there that are specifically for this kind of dubstep? I remember seeing a Phaeleh one somewhere but cant seem to find it!
If you're going to comment and say 'what's Liquid dubstep?' - dont be penis, you all know what I mean.
Thanks people!
Re: 'Liquid' Dubstep Producers!
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:15 am
by topmo3
ambinet
Re: 'Liquid' Dubstep Producers!
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:29 am
by Bass_Jacka
topmo3 wrote:ambinet
What?
Re: 'Liquid' Dubstep Producers!
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 12:24 pm
by Icetickle
I think it's also called "Progressive Dubstep"..
- really chilled and dominating ambient noises.
- punchy, not so fat, kinda wet drums.
- less agressive basslines.
- no "dropping" the bass!
Re: 'Liquid' Dubstep Producers!
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 12:40 pm
by Bass_Jacka
Icetickle wrote:I think it's also called "Progressive Dubstep"..
- really chilled and dominating ambient noises.
- punchy, not so fat, kinda wet drums.
- less agressive basslines.
- no "dropping" the bass!
Ok then, progressive dubstep, lol. Yeah that's the kind of dubstep im refering to. There's not really a real drop, the drop is more often just a nice weighty sub coming in with a different melody/drums than the intro. The drums are kinda wet in the way that some hits are heavy in reverb/delay, but like a lot of Phaeleh tracks theres a lot of piched clicks, sticks, snaps etc. Any sample packs made up of these kind of hits, decent ones I mean?
Any decent producers worth listening to for some inspiration?
Re: 'Liquid' Dubstep Producers!
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 12:45 pm
by Icetickle
Bass Jacka wrote:Icetickle wrote:I think it's also called "Progressive Dubstep"..
- really chilled and dominating ambient noises.
- punchy, not so fat, kinda wet drums.
- less agressive basslines.
- no "dropping" the bass!
Ok then, progressive dubstep, lol. Yeah that's the kind of dubstep im refering to. There's not really a real drop, the drop is more often just a nice weighty sub coming in with a different melody/drums than the intro. The drums are kinda wet in the way that some hits are heavy in reverb/delay, but like a lot of Phaeleh tracks theres a lot of piched clicks, sticks, snaps etc. Any sample packs made up of these kind of hits, decent ones I mean?
Any decent producers worth listening to for some inspiration?
Check "Prime Loops - Progressive Dubstep" sample pack.
Check "Prime Loops - Liquid DNB Essentials" sample pack.
And try listening to liquid D'n'B.. it's the same shit. If you know what do you want to make, you don't really need to listen to anyones music.
And about the melody in this sub genre, I believe it should be kinda quiet/in the background. You can also use a lot of tasty claps.
Re: 'Liquid' Dubstep Producers!
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:03 pm
by Bass_Jacka
Cheers mate, much appreciated! I'll check them out I do listen to liquid DnB, but i prefer liquid/progressive dubstep as i find there's more space to play about with percussion being at a lower bpm.
Icetickle wrote:
If you know what do you want to make, you don't really need to listen to anyones music.
I know what I want to make, but it's just refreshing sometimes to listen to someon elses tracks for new ideas. Especially when i hit a 'block', listening to a tack of the genre I'm working on is sometimes what I need to get me writting again.
Re: 'Liquid' Dubstep Producers!
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:52 pm
by subfect
Icetickle wrote:I think it's also called "Progressive Dubstep"..
- really chilled and dominating ambient noises.
- punchy, not so fat, kinda wet drums.
- less agressive basslines.
- no "dropping" the bass!
This isn't true at all. Liquid is the actual term for more melodic/atmospheric numbers. Progressive - when applied to ANY genre, is about track progression - usually from a lighter/more minimal aspect to the end of the tune which is where the peak resides, which in usual track progression, is around the 2/4 to 1/2 of the tune.
Bass jacka - plenty of dnb around that has more space in it
Try not to think of it in terms of genre, but bpm range.
You can write a 140 tune that has so much percussion (thinking Reso right now), that it almost sounds like dnb. Then you've got dnb that has minimal percussion (think some Calibre tunes, icicle.etc.) which carries a more dungeon/minimal vibe, like dubstep.
Re: 'Liquid' Dubstep Producers!
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:34 pm
by bennyfroobs
Bass Jacka wrote:
Any decent producers worth listening to for some inspiration?
u could check out
indigo, synkro, sorrow, asa, swarms, sully(for percussions), submerse, j-one(mad percs), bhava. cant think of any1 else off the top of my head
basically a few ppl who get lumped into that 'future garage' thing that went on a while ago have a similar style to liquidprogressiveambientwhateveritscalled dubstep. careful with future garage though cos most of it was wack
and also agree with what subfect said, some alix perez tracks are bare minimal wheras rockwell has produced some 130 things that sound as mental as some of his 170 stuff
u could try sites like swampleswap and freesound they have a few weird percs on there. just mess about with pitching found sounds and record ur own stuff, thats what i do
Re: 'Liquid' Dubstep Producers!
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:57 pm
by SunkLo
bennyfroobs wrote:
u could try sites like swampleswap and freesound they have a few weird percs on there. just mess about with pitching found sounds and record ur own stuff, thats what i do
Yeah freesound is dope. You can take a convolution reverb plugin and load random samples in instead of the reverb impulses. Creates really interesting textures that have a sort of reverb vibe but very much unlike a traditional reverb. You can also use Paulstretch to stretch or condense things into percussive samples. Granular effects work well for interesting percussion samples as well.
Re: 'Liquid' Dubstep Producers!
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:46 pm
by Turnipish_Thoughts
I'm fairly certain the name is Transitional Dubstep
(i feel like such a penis right now). But srsly I've been in to it for ages and it's a term for it I've seen flying around a lot. It's what I make anyway (when I make full tunes and not just fuck about stuff)
It's all about combining classical/orchestral/world instruments, motifs and textures into punchy dubstep breaks. Check out Tron Sepia - 'Abyss' on their Weird Fishes and Other Stories album <3 Also Coleco - Patience EP, The Cogent Project - Fury and sound EP (more sort of fringe semi dancy ambient electronica than dubstep though but proper similar vibes), Geiom - 'Island Noise' Album. Some from my 'go to' bag at the moment.
I'm also up for sharing like minded musical ideas OP if you feel like throwing me a PM about it
Re: 'Liquid' Dubstep Producers!
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:58 pm
by SunkLo
Turnipish Thoughts wrote:I'm fairly certain the name is Dubstep.
Re: 'Liquid' Dubstep Producers!
Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:09 am
by bennyfroobs
Re: 'Liquid' Dubstep Producers!
Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:13 am
by f1rstsense
Dude, check out MrSuicideSheep's youtube channel. That will be your paradise if you are looking for that kinda music.
Re: 'Liquid' Dubstep Producers!
Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:28 pm
by LogiSpark
^This guy, MrSuicideSheep had many ambient and calm music in his channel. Also hear some of KOAN sound's ambient sounds like Beyond the Shadows, Introvert, and a couple of songs they made with Asa.
You also check Liquid dnb just like Icetickle said, it focuses on melodic sounds rather than constructing heavy reeses and over complicated automation. For starters, I used 50% Nexus and 50% were a couple of synths I made (Arps, plucks, and basses to go with me chords)
Re: 'Liquid' Dubstep Producers!
Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:07 pm
by mthrfnk
Check out Blackmill if you want more instrumental style stuff
Re: 'Liquid' Dubstep Producers!
Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:17 pm
by overture
Bass Jacka wrote:dont be penis
Re: 'Liquid' Dubstep Producers!
Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:45 pm
by Icetickle
subfect wrote:Icetickle wrote:I think it's also called "Progressive Dubstep"..
- really chilled and dominating ambient noises.
- punchy, not so fat, kinda wet drums.
- less agressive basslines.
- no "dropping" the bass!
This isn't true at all. Liquid is the actual term for more melodic/atmospheric numbers. Progressive - when applied to ANY genre, is about track progression - usually from a lighter/more minimal aspect to the end of the tune which is where the peak resides, which in usual track progression, is around the 2/4 to 1/2 of the tune.
Bass jacka - plenty of dnb around that has more space in it
Try not to think of it in terms of genre, but bpm range.
You can write a 140 tune that has so much percussion (thinking Reso right now), that it almost sounds like dnb. Then you've got dnb that has minimal percussion (think some Calibre tunes, icicle.etc.) which carries a more dungeon/minimal vibe, like dubstep.
Progressive dubstep sample pack from prime loops sounds just like liquid dnb. And it's good.
Re: 'Liquid' Dubstep Producers!
Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:05 pm
by wub
Icetickle wrote:Bass Jacka wrote:Icetickle wrote:I think it's also called "Progressive Dubstep"...
Ok then, progressive dubstep, lol.
Check "Prime Loops - Progressive Dubstep" sample pack.
I would disagree with this approach. If you want to make 'progressive dubstep' then buying a sample pack called 'progressive dubstep' won't necessarily be the best way to go about it.
You might be better off identifying some of the structures/elements you like in a 'progressive dubstep' tune, then work on trying to recreate them yourself rather than rely on a premade pack of sounds that someone somewhere has arbitrarily decided to associate with the genre.
It'll be of more benefit in the long run if you focus on how to make your own sounds and adapt what you have with your own unique style than it will be taking a bunch of sounds and assembling a track in a paint-by-numbers fashion.
Re: 'Liquid' Dubstep Producers!
Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:11 pm
by Icetickle
wub wrote:Icetickle wrote:Bass Jacka wrote:Icetickle wrote:I think it's also called "Progressive Dubstep"...
Ok then, progressive dubstep, lol.
Check "Prime Loops - Progressive Dubstep" sample pack.
I would disagree with this approach. If you want to make 'progressive dubstep' then buying a sample pack called 'progressive dubstep' won't necessarily be the best way to go about it.
You might be better off identifying some of the structures/elements you like in a 'progressive dubstep' tune, then work on trying to recreate them yourself rather than rely on a premade pack of sounds that someone somewhere has arbitrarily decided to associate with the genre.
It'll be of more benefit in the long run if you focus on how to make your own sounds and adapt what you have with your own unique style than it will be taking a bunch of sounds and assembling a track in a paint-by-numbers fashion.
He would be doing it only for the drums. At least that is what I meant.
And the drums are dope as fuck imo. (tested)