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transparent mastering

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:32 am
by killakam98

Like when I look at the waveform its clearly compressed as fuck, but I cant tell by listening...
is there like some sort of plugin that can do this or is it like some mastering engineer secret or some shit like that

Re: transparent mastering

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:03 am
by Devilsindub
killakam98 wrote:
Like when I look at the waveform its clearly compressed as fuck, but I cant tell by listening...
is there like some sort of plugin that can do this or is it like some mastering engineer secret or some shit like that
Are you pretty much new to production? Or are you being sarcastic? Legitamit question, I'm not poking fun at you. If you're new to production I'll be more than happy to help you out. :D

Re: transparent mastering

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:30 am
by ChadDub
idk man I just put fruity fast distortion on everything so it sounds loud as fuck then I eq out the noise

Re: transparent mastering

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:44 am
by Devilsindub
You do what?? :o what DAW are you using Kilakam?

Re: transparent mastering

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:56 am
by outbound
Make sure to have a mix which is well balanced to begin with.

Mastering tracks and being able to get them 'loud' with as little negative artefacts as possible takes time, practise and most importantly a monitoring chain that allows you to hear the whole mix and hear what's going on, that way you can make decisions and know exactly how they will translate to the real world (when listening on other systems)

http://www.what-is-mastering.net

That is a resource that I have started which has got plenty of info on mastering and is updated very regularly so worth bookmarking if you are interested in improving your self-masters.

Re: transparent mastering

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:55 pm
by Devilsindub
outbound wrote:Make sure to have a mix which is well balanced to begin with.

Mastering tracks and being able to get them 'loud' with as little negative artefacts as possible takes time, practise and most importantly a monitoring chain that allows you to hear the whole mix and hear what's going on, that way you can make decisions and know exactly how they will translate to the real world (when listening on other systems)

http://www.what-is-mastering.net

That is a resource that I have started which has got plenty of info on mastering and is updated very regularly so worth bookmarking if you are interested in improving your self-masters.
What he said :D . If you're using FL John miller has a good tutorial on YouTube for the basics of mastering in FL. SeamlessR also has a good advanced mixing and mastering tutorial.

Re: transparent mastering

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:45 pm
by ChadDub
Devilsindub wrote:
outbound wrote:Make sure to have a mix which is well balanced to begin with.

Mastering tracks and being able to get them 'loud' with as little negative artefacts as possible takes time, practise and most importantly a monitoring chain that allows you to hear the whole mix and hear what's going on, that way you can make decisions and know exactly how they will translate to the real world (when listening on other systems)

http://www.what-is-mastering.net

That is a resource that I have started which has got plenty of info on mastering and is updated very regularly so worth bookmarking if you are interested in improving your self-masters.
What he said :D . If you're using FL John miller has a good tutorial on YouTube for the basics of mastering in FL. SeamlessR also has a good advanced mixing and mastering tutorial.
are you talking about the one where seamless goes through his song Resolve?

Re: transparent mastering

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:59 pm
by AxeD
It's mostly about perceived loudness, I mean you can straight pump any mix as close to 0 as possible, but that's
not mastering.

Re: transparent mastering

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:15 pm
by Devilsindub
ChadDub wrote:
Devilsindub wrote:
outbound wrote:Make sure to have a mix which is well balanced to begin with.

Mastering tracks and being able to get them 'loud' with as little negative artefacts as possible takes time, practise and most importantly a monitoring chain that allows you to hear the whole mix and hear what's going on, that way you can make decisions and know exactly how they will translate to the real world (when listening on other systems)

http://www.what-is-mastering.net

That is a resource that I have started which has got plenty of info on mastering and is updated very regularly so worth bookmarking if you are interested in improving your self-masters.
What he said :D . If you're using FL John miller has a good tutorial on YouTube for the basics of mastering in FL. SeamlessR also has a good advanced mixing and mastering tutorial.
are you talking about the one where seamless goes through his song Resolve?

I'm not sure what song he played through in his tutorial. The title is mixing and mastering.

Re: transparent mastering

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:21 pm
by mthrfnk

Yeah it's Resolve.

Re: transparent mastering

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:30 pm
by Devilsindub
mthrfnk wrote:
Yeah it's Resolve.
Cool thanks for clarifying that, I wasnt sure. He has some really good methods. Sometimes he's pretty lazy which he sails so himself, but over all he's pretty talented in terms of production. But most of his tutorials can be a bit vague so that's why I say it's for the more advanced producers. If you're new to producing you'll have to watch his videos several times each and probably some basic tutorials by other people to get it. He's been doing basic tutorials for FL now which is a good move on his part.

Re: transparent mastering

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 6:47 am
by azuk
You can try to pump as hard as possible in the mix, then try and pump up to 3 db with Inflator or L2 to get uber loud.

Re: transparent mastering

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:35 am
by ChadDub
Devilsindub wrote:
mthrfnk wrote:
Yeah it's Resolve.
Cool thanks for clarifying that, I wasnt sure. He has some really good methods. Sometimes he's pretty lazy which he sails so himself, but over all he's pretty talented in terms of production. But most of his tutorials can be a bit vague so that's why I say it's for the more advanced producers. If you're new to producing you'll have to watch his videos several times each and probably some basic tutorials by other people to get it. He's been doing basic tutorials for FL now which is a good move on his part.
I just was in his live stream for tonight and just from the 45 minutes or so I was in there I learned so much. The dude is amazing. Now I actually know how to somewhat use Maximus lol.

Re: transparent mastering

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:16 am
by mthrfnk
ChadDub wrote:
Devilsindub wrote:
mthrfnk wrote:
Yeah it's Resolve.
Cool thanks for clarifying that, I wasnt sure. He has some really good methods. Sometimes he's pretty lazy which he sails so himself, but over all he's pretty talented in terms of production. But most of his tutorials can be a bit vague so that's why I say it's for the more advanced producers. If you're new to producing you'll have to watch his videos several times each and probably some basic tutorials by other people to get it. He's been doing basic tutorials for FL now which is a good move on his part.
I just was in his live stream for tonight and just from the 45 minutes or so I was in there I learned so much. The dude is amazing. Now I actually know how to somewhat use Maximus lol.
Some of his techniques are a bit sketchy though, there's a lot of places in that video where he's slamming the shit out of things with EQ or Comp/Limiting when there's probably better methods that would result in a better/cleaner mix. That's the one thing I've noticed about his tracks - whilst the sound design and ideas are great the mixes can sometimes sound muddy and/or flat.

Re: transparent mastering

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 2:45 pm
by Devilsindub
Thats very true. To be fair he does mention the fact that he's lazy and does things the fast and easy way by squashing, sidechaining through one bus, and crushing the hell out of it in the master track. But I do agree with you. I'm not a lazy producer so I tend to do my mastering and compression differently.

Re: transparent mastering

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:01 pm
by killakam98
Thanks guys