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Does anyone else do this?
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:11 pm
by HollandVW
I hate Ableton's automation, especially when I'm using massive. The automation for changing the LFO rate is especially awkward and annoying. So instead, I use the LFO as an envelope, and use lots of short notes. That way I don't have to deal with automation bullshit or have a million instances of one sound with different LFO rates. Am I the only person who does this, or are there others like me?
Re: Does anyone else do this?
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:31 pm
by Eat Bass
i do this sometimes but not for that reason because i dont use ableton. but the sound is going to be different than what you could get with an lfo. though with proper release settings you may be able to get it close.
Re: Does anyone else do this?
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:08 am
by Nevs
HollandVW wrote:I hate Ableton's automation, especially when I'm using massive. The automation for changing the LFO rate is especially awkward and annoying. So instead, I use the LFO as an envelope, and use lots of short notes. That way I don't have to deal with automation bullshit or have a million instances of one sound with different LFO rates. Am I the only person who does this, or are there others like me?
that method should work just fine, but as an ableton user, I'm just curious what exactly makes it hard to use the automation in ableton for the lfo rate? Both methods can be used to different effect.
Re: Does anyone else do this?
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:06 am
by outbound
I find the automation a pain in Logic as well. For some reason it doesn't line up in time with the actual audio so you have to nudge it out of time to get the result you want and then it always changes anyway when you go for a bounce! lol
Re: Does anyone else do this?
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:53 am
by pete_bubonic
outbound wrote:I find the automation a pain in Logic as well. For some reason it doesn't line up in time with the actual audio so you have to nudge it out of time to get the result you want and then it always changes anyway when you go for a bounce! lol
is this not a buffering problem?
Re: Does anyone else do this?
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:15 pm
by AxeD
Sounds like it is yeah.
Re: Does anyone else do this?
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:38 pm
by outbound
pete bubonic wrote:outbound wrote:I find the automation a pain in Logic as well. For some reason it doesn't line up in time with the actual audio so you have to nudge it out of time to get the result you want and then it always changes anyway when you go for a bounce! lol
is this not a buffering problem?
I always assumed it was down to the delay added from certain plugins I use.
Re: Does anyone else do this?
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:24 pm
by pete_bubonic
Yeah i think some of the more demanding plugins inherently have a delay (there is a minimise latency option in logic 9, but will straight disable some of the most taxing), but decreasing your buffer size should reduce latency (but also will reduce the time/memory plugins have to play with, so I think I got some horrible glitching when finding my optimal buffer size.
Re: Does anyone else do this?
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:42 pm
by Eat Bass
outbound sounds like you should maybe bounce your wobbles solo'd, then chop if necessary so it wobbles at the time and place you want. but your more knowledgeable than me anyway so i probably should keep my mouth shut lol
Re: Does anyone else do this?
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:09 pm
by fragments
If I'm using LFO type modulation to get movement in a sound source I almost exclusively bounce to audio and chop it on the time line. I find I get more organic results that way anyhow. I've always felt the less I'm relying on the computer/DAW/VST to do my work for me the better result I'm going to get. You can save multiple versions of projects and go back. Audio is concrete, weird MIDI, sync and timing things aren't an issue unless you've got larger problems with your system.