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How can I bounce stems to WAV in ableton?

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:59 pm
by Sinergy
This should be pretty damn simple I think.

But for instance

I take a sound I've made in midi, bounce it to audio, create a folder in my "Samples" place, and I drag the clip into that folder

Instead of just putting the wav file in there as an audio clip, I get a WHOLE bunch of other junk I don't want, it makes like 3 files and a new folder, so this makes organizing a bunch of audio samples really frustrating.

Here is what it makes, I don't want all this other bullshit, just a simple wav audio clip...
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Re: How can I bounce stems to WAV in ableton?

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:33 am
by mks
I would just group the channels that you want, mute the rest and then render it.

Or you could just group the channels, freeze and flatten it and drag it to a new channel as an audio file.

Re: How can I bounce stems to WAV in ableton?

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:00 am
by titchbit
with ableton, you can drag a single wav file out of the daw onto your desktop or whatever other folder. you don't need to render it if it's just one wav. That's what I would do.

Re: How can I bounce stems to WAV in ableton?

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:07 am
by mks
If you are dragging a clip, you are going to get all of that info for the clip with it.

Re: How can I bounce stems to WAV in ableton?

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:03 am
by titchbit
What info do you mean? Do you mean info that is contained within the wav file? Because that is what he wants no? Or do you mean separate files? Like the analysis files or whatever they're called? I never had any need for those, you can go into the settings and change a setting that gets rid of them.

Re: How can I bounce stems to WAV in ableton?

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:46 am
by mks
The clip info contained in the .alc file. It is even in the first picture that op posted. It contains all of the clip settings.

Re: How can I bounce stems to WAV in ableton?

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:33 am
by Electric_Head
Does Ableton not have a function to export all Channels as stems?

Re: How can I bounce stems to WAV in ableton?

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:47 am
by Sinergy
I want to do it one by one, cause some stuff I don't want.

And yeah, I don't want all that .alc shite, is there a setting i can change so dragging will simply put down a Wav file in the folder?

dubunked wrote:with ableton, you can drag a single wav file out of the daw onto your desktop or whatever other folder. you don't need to render it if it's just one wav. That's what I would do.
Yeah, I did this, I made a folder in the ableton sidebar, and dragged what I'm pretty damn sure is a wav file (clip), and it gave me all that other crap

Re: How can I bounce stems to WAV in ableton?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:22 am
by BrightLights
When you go to export from Ableton, at the top you can pick which track you want to render. On default its on master. That might take a little bit of time though.

Re: How can I bounce stems to WAV in ableton?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:12 am
by titchbit
Sinergy wrote:
dubunked wrote:with ableton, you can drag a single wav file out of the daw onto your desktop or whatever other folder. you don't need to render it if it's just one wav. That's what I would do.
Yeah, I did this, I made a folder in the ableton sidebar, and dragged what I'm pretty damn sure is a wav file (clip), and it gave me all that other crap
Hmm, well I've never even come across these .alc files. Maybe cause I'm on a Mac? Or just cause I don't save samples to the browser. Whenever I save samples (such as wav files), I usually drag them straight out of ableton completely and drop them on my desktop. Then I'll bring them to whatever folder in finder (mac) that I want to store them in. I find that to be the easiest way. Never encountered any .alc files. But I used to get these annoying-ass "analysis files" or something. Then I went into settings and turned off "create analysis file". Never seem 'em since.

Re: How can I bounce stems to WAV in ableton?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:13 am
by Icetickle
1. Right click on the track you want to bounce.
2. Choose "Freeze"
3. Right click again.
4. Choose "Flatten" or "Flat".. not sure.
5. Profit.

Re: How can I bounce stems to WAV in ableton?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:27 pm
by f1rstsense
just open up a project and chose
File
Export Audio/Video
and next to Rendered Track chose All Tracks

thats it :)

Re: How can I bounce stems to WAV in ableton?

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:15 am
by zosomagik
You could freeze and flatten all your tracks and click file collect all and save and your stems should then just be in your samples folder in your projects folder


I forgot to say too, youd obviously have to consolidate little bits of audio into one piece of audio so its actually a stem and not a sample

Re: How can I bounce stems to WAV in ableton?

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:23 pm
by TheReptilianElite
Simple,

Many reasons and ways are possible. Resampling is one technique to stem audio.

But if you are sending off for professional mixing for someone using a different DAW, the best way to get those stems is to bounce the track down to WAV but instead of having it on the master - change that to all channels. Make sure you take off all effects (that aren't shaping the sound) and center everything with NO CLIPPING.

hope that helps. If you are needing stems for another reason drop a line.

Re: How can I bounce stems to WAV in ableton?

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 6:25 pm
by titchbit
TheReptilianElite wrote:Simple,

Many reasons and ways are possible. Resampling is one technique to stem audio.

But if you are sending off for professional mixing for someone using a different DAW, the best way to get those stems is to bounce the track down to WAV but instead of having it on the master - change that to all channels. Make sure you take off all effects (that aren't shaping the sound) and center everything with NO CLIPPING.

hope that helps. If you are needing stems for another reason drop a line.
Why center everything?

Re: How can I bounce stems to WAV in ableton?

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 6:57 pm
by TheReptilianElite
I've always been told to center everything. If it is in stereo you're cool. But for mono sounds you would want them centered before bouncing to wav

Usually when I get my songs mixed and mastered by someone else that's always what they request. Usually the centering adjustment is really so whoever is mixing your music has flexibility. Also, sometimes mono tracks are used to create stereo or stereo effects (A la Haas effect). Either way, I wouldn't chance sending my music off without following whatever the requester told me. No room for error.