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Learning

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:18 pm
by trixielamore
Hey guys,

I've recently gotten way into dubstep. Loving the sounds, grooves and beats. Kinda wanting to start messing around making my own stuff however, I have NO CLUE where to even start. no knowledge of anything really and no equipment yet. knowing this may get real expensive in the future, im looking for the cheapest way to start making my own drops. any help, tips or beginners guide links or ANYTHING would be amazing. PLEASE HELP!

Re: Learning

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:22 pm
by Direflow
production forum mate

Learning

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:29 pm
by trixielamore
Hey guys,

I've recently gotten way into dubstep. Loving the sounds, grooves and beats. Kinda wanting to start messing around making my own stuff however, I have NO CLUE where to even start. no knowledge of anything really and no equipment yet. knowing this may get real expensive in the future, im looking for the cheapest way to start making my own drops. any help, tips or beginners guide links or ANYTHING would be amazing. PLEASE HELP!

Re: Learning

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:53 pm
by SunkLo
Production bible mate

Re: Learning

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:30 pm
by bassbum
I will save you some time.

First you need to look into Digital Audio Workstations (DAW). They are the main bit of software you will use to crate music. Big names are; Ableton, Cubase, Logic (Mac only) and Reason. Each has it's own merits and workflow. There are some free DAWs about, Fruity Loops, Reaper and a few others. They will get the job done but with most free software they are lacking in places.

Most people will use 3rd party software with there DAWs called VSTs. These can do anything from generating a sound to audio FXs. Here is a few of the better know companies to get you started with that... Fabfilter, Rob Papen, Native Instruments.

For drums most people will use samples. You can chop up loops or download packs of one shots. Vengeance is well respected in that field but there are load of free packs about.

If you want to make EDM you will want to look into Synthesisers. They come as a VST but most DAW will have a few included. They are used for creating sounds. Most will come with some preset sounds for you to use or you can design your own. Look into Massive, Albino 3, FM8 and Synthmaster. Again you can get free ones.

As for hardware the main thing most people will use is a midi keyboard. It's just a Keyboard you can use with your computer. You can pick up a cheep one for about £50. Other than that if you want to record audio you might want to look into Audio Interfaces. Most people say Monitors are the first thing to buy. They are just speakers that give you a true representation of the sound.

As for learning. The Production Bible and Youtube is a good place to start. There are short courses in Music Production you could consider. On-line courses seem to be more popular these days and don't cost as much. Look into Point Blank and Dubspot.

That should get you started.

Re: Learning

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:10 pm
by SunkLo
bassbum wrote:There are some free DAWs about, Fruity Loops, Reaper and a few others. They will get the job done but with most free software they are lacking in places.
Neither of those are free.

Re: Learning

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:34 pm
by titchbit
:cornlol:

Re: Learning

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:57 pm
by ehbes
bassbum wrote:I will save you some time.

First you need to look into Digital Audio Workstations (DAW). They are the main bit of software you will use to crate music. Big names are; Ableton, Cubase, Logic (Mac only) and Reason. Each has it's own merits and workflow. There are some free DAWs about, Fruity Loops, Reaper and a few others. They will get the job done but with most free software they are lacking in places.

Most people will use 3rd party software with there DAWs called VSTs. These can do anything from generating a sound to audio FXs. Here is a few of the better know companies to get you started with that... Fabfilter, Rob Papen, Native Instruments.

For drums most people will use samples. You can chop up loops or download packs of one shots. Vengeance is well respected in that field but there are load of free packs about.

If you want to make EDM you will want to look into Synthesisers. They come as a VST but most DAW will have a few included. They are used for creating sounds. Most will come with some preset sounds for you to use or you can design your own. Look into Massive, Albino 3, FM8 and Synthmaster. Again you can get free ones.

As for hardware the main thing most people will use is a midi keyboard. It's just a Keyboard you can use with your computer. You can pick up a cheep one for about £50. Other than that if you want to record audio you might want to look into Audio Interfaces. Most people say Monitors are the first thing to buy. They are just speakers that give you a true representation of the sound.

As for learning. The Production Bible and Youtube is a good place to start. There are short courses in Music Production you could consider. On-line courses seem to be more popular these days and don't cost as much. Look into Point Blank and Dubspot.

That should get you started.
OP ignore most of this. most of it is filled with opinions, just read the production bible that'll give you an unbiased introduction

Re: Learning

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 12:27 am
by bassbum
SunkLo wrote:
bassbum wrote:There are some free DAWs about, Fruity Loops, Reaper and a few others. They will get the job done but with most free software they are lacking in places.
Neither of those are free.
Isnt Wub always going on about how Reaper is free?

Re: Learning

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 12:30 am
by ehbes
bassbum wrote:
SunkLo wrote:
bassbum wrote:There are some free DAWs about, Fruity Loops, Reaper and a few others. They will get the job done but with most free software they are lacking in places.
Neither of those are free.
Isnt Wub always going on about how Reaper is free?
it has a free unrestricted trial

Re: Learning

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 12:46 am
by bassbum
ehbrums1 wrote:
bassbum wrote:I will save you some time.

First you need to look into Digital Audio Workstations (DAW). They are the main bit of software you will use to crate music. Big names are; Ableton, Cubase, Logic (Mac only) and Reason. Each has it's own merits and workflow. There are some free DAWs about, Fruity Loops, Reaper and a few others. They will get the job done but with most free software they are lacking in places.

Most people will use 3rd party software with there DAWs called VSTs. These can do anything from generating a sound to audio FXs. Here is a few of the better know companies to get you started with that... Fabfilter, Rob Papen, Native Instruments.

For drums most people will use samples. You can chop up loops or download packs of one shots. Vengeance is well respected in that field but there are load of free packs about.

If you want to make EDM you will want to look into Synthesisers. They come as a VST but most DAW will have a few included. They are used for creating sounds. Most will come with some preset sounds for you to use or you can design your own. Look into Massive, Albino 3, FM8 and Synthmaster. Again you can get free ones.

As for hardware the main thing most people will use is a midi keyboard. It's just a Keyboard you can use with your computer. You can pick up a cheep one for about £50. Other than that if you want to record audio you might want to look into Audio Interfaces. Most people say Monitors are the first thing to buy. They are just speakers that give you a true representation of the sound.

As for learning. The Production Bible and Youtube is a good place to start. There are short courses in Music Production you could consider. On-line courses seem to be more popular these days and don't cost as much. Look into Point Blank and Dubspot.

That should get you started.
OP ignore most of this. most of it is filled with opinions, just read the production bible that'll give you an unbiased introduction
I have never read the introduction to the production bible before. I have always just jumped to the bits I want to read and I thought it was all just links to threads. If I had know there was such a good introduction I wouldn't have bothered.

OP please feel free to ignore me. The production bible is much better written.

Reading it back I should not of said all plugins are VSTs :oops:

Re: Learning

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:39 pm
by mr echo
ehbrums1 wrote:
bassbum wrote:I will save you some time.

First you need to look into Digital Audio Workstations (DAW). They are the main bit of software you will use to crate music. Big names are; Ableton, Cubase, Logic (Mac only) and Reason. Each has it's own merits and workflow. There are some free DAWs about, Fruity Loops, Reaper and a few others. They will get the job done but with most free software they are lacking in places.

Most people will use 3rd party software with there DAWs called VSTs. These can do anything from generating a sound to audio FXs. Here is a few of the better know companies to get you started with that... Fabfilter, Rob Papen, Native Instruments.

For drums most people will use samples. You can chop up loops or download packs of one shots. Vengeance is well respected in that field but there are load of free packs about.

If you want to make EDM you will want to look into Synthesisers. They come as a VST but most DAW will have a few included. They are used for creating sounds. Most will come with some preset sounds for you to use or you can design your own. Look into Massive, Albino 3, FM8 and Synthmaster. Again you can get free ones.

As for hardware the main thing most people will use is a midi keyboard. It's just a Keyboard you can use with your computer. You can pick up a cheep one for about £50. Other than that if you want to record audio you might want to look into Audio Interfaces. Most people say Monitors are the first thing to buy. They are just speakers that give you a true representation of the sound.

As for learning. The Production Bible and Youtube is a good place to start. There are short courses in Music Production you could consider. On-line courses seem to be more popular these days and don't cost as much. Look into Point Blank and Dubspot.

That should get you started.
OP ignore most of this. most of it is filled with opinions, just read the production bible that'll give you an unbiased introduction


No it's not. It seemed to me more like a very clear, concise overview of things to look in to.

The production bible is very good. Read it! But this post was actually pretty unbiased. All he did was mention some of the more popular tools and companies people use.

It was a good post.

Re: Learning

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:28 pm
by trixielamore
thanks guys, you've actually been big helps!

Re: Learning

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:53 pm
by bassbum
ehbrums1 wrote:
bassbum wrote:
SunkLo wrote:
bassbum wrote:There are some free DAWs about, Fruity Loops, Reaper and a few others. They will get the job done but with most free software they are lacking in places.
Neither of those are free.
Isnt Wub always going on about how Reaper is free?
it has a free unrestricted trial
So its free?

Re: Learning

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:37 pm
by titchbit
it has a free unrestricted trial.

if you wanna pay $60, you can.

Re: Learning

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:21 am
by Hex047
Podium free is the best freeware DAW you can get currently.

Re: Learning

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:44 am
by wub
Hex047 wrote:Podium free is the best freeware DAW you can get currently.
Never heard of that before;

http://zynewave.com/podium-free/



Looks interesting...anyone got experience with using it?

Re: Learning

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:27 pm
by AxeD
Amazes me how people go on about the production bible :lol:

Re: Learning

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:29 pm
by ehbes
AxeD wrote:Amazes me how people go on about the production bible :lol:
Well I can't just say buy reason and all your woes will go away, that'd be unfair

Re: Learning

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:41 pm
by fragments
ehbrums1 wrote:
AxeD wrote:Amazes me how people go on about the production bible :lol:
Well I can't just say buy reason and all your woes will go away, that'd be unfair
That's so incredibly far from the stupidest/most ignorant thing I've ever read on this forum I would cautiously call "Buy reason and all your woes will go away" good advice...