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sycopation

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:28 am
by skanki
any tips man, my drums are startin to bore me im on fl7 and the old swing n that souns whack and i cant seem to get owt good out of the quantizer.

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:44 am
by shonky
Quantize and induced swing aren't really going to help get your beats moving. Don't know what method you're using but if you're drawing the beats in, it's going to be about as funky as James Blunt.

I'd suggest setting up an eight bar loop, get the click going and using a drum kit, use one hand to tap in the kick and the other the snare - this immediately gets you into more of a call and response way of doing things, so that you can start hearing how the rhythm pushes and pulls the overall rhythm. Then just add in the other layers (hats, percussion, etc) until you have something that sounds good. Rather than quantize the whole thing, just find any hits that don't sit quite right and move them individually.

I don't know if you can do it in FL, but some sequencers allow you to take a groove template from other breaks and then apply this as a quantize to your beats - if you have that option try it and then have a look in the piano roll editor, it should help show you how your favourite breaks and rhythms are often before or after the beat.

Also listen to music with a lot of emphasis on syncopation (i.e. not most dubstep) :wink:

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:47 am
by skanki
nice one mate, fl dont do that groove extract ting to the best of my knowledge, shame tho,.

il give that playin in the drums a blast i reckon.

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:53 am
by shonky
There's a workaround on that - if you have recycle, you can extract the midi file from that and then just move the notes to hit on the beats you want

Even if you don't have recycle, there's plenty of rex files you can nab off the net for nothing and FL may allow you to import them into the sampler and then just extract the midi from there

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:04 am
by skanki
does fl support rex?

i dont have recycle either.

so the rex file would open as midi or wot?

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:38 am
by shonky
SKanKI wrote:does fl support rex?

i dont have recycle either.

so the rex file would open as midi or wot?
If your sequencer can import rex files into the sampler then you should be able to extract the midi sequence at the time. Sorry, don't know nowt about FL to be honest, you'll need to ask someone who does

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:14 am
by skanki
safe anyways bruv,