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				Mixing arps to sound distant in your mix but still clear?
				Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:40 am
				by ShrapnelDubstep
				Ok so I was listening to this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m_25oZP568
In the drop, that arp does not interfere with any other elements of the track, I was wondering how one would mix an arp to sound way in the back like that?
Thanks for any help
 
			
					
				Re: Mixing arps to sound distant in your mix but still clear
				Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 1:14 pm
				by factory presets
				Filter the highs so they don't interfere with the screechy bits and the lows so they don't interfere with the bass.
Hear the unfiltered sound at 1:22
			 
			
					
				Re: Mixing arps to sound distant in your mix but still clear
				Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:33 pm
				by rockonin
				High pass + low pass/low shelf. You can just automate the eq bands depending on the sound you want throughout the track.
			 
			
					
				Re: Mixing arps to sound distant in your mix but still clear
				Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:36 pm
				by Genevieve
				They also have a lot of stereo width because of the reverb, whereas most of the mix is fairly centered.
			 
			
					
				Re: Mixing arps to sound distant in your mix but still clear
				Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:49 pm
				by ChromaRhythm
				1. Bandpass the arp, For example..cut around 400hz with a highpass & 14khz with a low pass.
2. Get abletons OTT compressor preset and set it around 20%-50% to make it sound sharper even when it lowers in volume, 
3. Put a reverb into your chain and set it to around 100% wet - 80% dry (RP-Verb is what I'm specifically talking about) cut off the lows and and some highs off the reverb with the built-in filters, set a low reverb length. Set a slight pre-delay. 
Tweak the track volume to a low level like his, study your other sounds you got going on, EQ around that.
Hot-Tip: Put some reverb on everything to make it all sound buttery smooth while being "softened" to be able to hear everything. Instead of a shit ton of dry mush clashing together. 
Of course you have to tweak each reverb on each channel though. Don't listen to my songs for example. Those mixdowns suck  

 
			
					
				Re: Mixing arps to sound distant in your mix but still clear
				Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:02 pm
				by Samuel_L_Damnson
				chorus reverb phaser ect plus equing can help move things back in the mix.
			 
			
					
				Re: Mixing arps to sound distant in your mix but still clear
				Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:55 pm
				by bouncingfish
				Learned alot from these replies, thx op.
			 
			
					
				Re: Mixing arps to sound distant in your mix but still clear
				Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:17 pm
				by nowaysj
				Distance and depth is really hard to do right.  Can't listen.  Will listen and respond.  Like the responses so far.
			 
			
					
				Re: Mixing arps to sound distant in your mix but still clear
				Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:21 pm
				by SkairkroNY
				Have you tried the Haas effect?
			 
			
					
				Re: Mixing arps to sound distant in your mix but still clear
				Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:08 pm
				by NinjaEdit
				Delay can help things sound further in the mix as well.
			 
			
					
				Re: Mixing arps to sound distant in your mix but still clear
				Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:29 pm
				by SkairkroNY
				jonahmann wrote:Delay can help things sound further in the mix as well.
Which is what the Haas effect mostly is.
Delay and panning about can make for a nice presence in the mix, while low-pass frequency and volume automating can help with it's front/back positions.
 
			
					
				Re: Mixing arps to sound distant in your mix but still clear
				Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:30 pm
				by NinjaEdit
				Sidechain compression might help it sit as well.