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A New Cancer Study Found E-Cigarettes Affect Cells...

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:11 am
by rickyarbino
...the Same As Tobacco Smoke
motherboard.vice.com wrote:Electronic cigarettes have taken a pounding in the press lately. First there was the revelation that the liquid nicotine in the device is poisonous and potentially deadly if consumed. Then there was the horrifying story of an e-cig exploding in a bar in the UK—not the first time this has happened.

Now to cap it off, one of the first studies to look at the biological effects of the digital nicotine sticks found "striking similarities" between the effect of vaporized e-liquid and tobacco smoke on human cells. Further study is needed, but the similarity suggests vaping could increase the risk of cancer, despite being tobacco-free.

"They may be safer [than tobacco], but our preliminary studies suggest that they may not be benign,” said study author Avrum Spira, a genomics and lung cancer researcher at Boston University. The study was published in Nature and presented at the American Association for Cancer Research annual meeting this week.

Researchers studied bronchial cells in a culture medium. They found that when the cells were exposed to e-cig vapor containing nicotine they showed similar gene mutations as the cells exposed to tobacco smoke, and determined to be at risk of becoming cancerous.

The next step is to test the genes altered by e-cig vapor to see if they too show potential carcinogenicity.

It's just the latest study complicating the controversial question of over whether e-cigs should be embraced as a healthier alternative to traditional smokes or banned outright. The answer to that largely hangs on a more specific question: Is nicotine itself a carcinogen, or is it just the super-addictive delivery system for the more toxic chemicals in tobacco smoke?

Research on the health effects of vaping is still in early phases, so there’s no conclusive answer just yet. But previous studies have found that nicotine can, at least, promote or exacerbate certain types of cancer. At the moment, general perception in the medical community is that it's not the most dangerous toxin in tobacco, but it's not off the hook either.

Which doesn't help much for the moral quandary health experts find themselves in when it comes to e-cigs. Are they OK because they're less dangerous than traditional cigarettes, even if they're still a little dangerous?

Spira said more research is needed. "These studies will determine the impact of e-cig exposure on lung carcinogenicity and provide needed scientific guidance to the FDA regarding the physiological effects of e-cigs."

Amid all the uncertainty, the Food and Drug Administration has taken its sweet time regulating the controversial gadgets, which have since skyrocketed from a novelty device to a booming billion-dollar industry. Absent any federal guidelines, e-cigs are being marketed willy nilly—to kids, as a smoking cessation product, with no quality control.

A growing collection of states have taken it upon themselves to ban the digital cigarettes in the meantime, but vaping’s Wild West days could be coming to an end. FDA commissioner Margaret Hamburg said last week that the agency is "pushing very hard" to complete a proposed rule for how to regulate e-cigs, and expects to present it "very soon."

Re: A New Cancer Study Found E-Cigarettes Affect Cells...

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:14 am
by Marcus
It's more like everything can give you cancer at this point.

Re: A New Cancer Study Found E-Cigarettes Affect Cells...

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:24 am
by wub
Marcus wrote:It's more like everything can give you cancer at this point.
Some Daily Mail vibes there;

List Of Things The Daily Mail Says Will Give You Cancer

Re: A New Cancer Study Found E-Cigarettes Affect Cells...

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:28 am
by rickyarbino
When I realized how long it would be I just scrolled down quickly and thought I'd read "Raving", I actually said ''they've gone too far" out loud to myself.

Re: A New Cancer Study Found E-Cigarettes Affect Cells...

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:30 am
by rickyarbino
Though now I think about it, most of those things promote human existence and population growth, cancer aims to do the opposite, so it may be a natural reaction to population overgrowth.













OR
I've watched too many epidemic films?

Re: A New Cancer Study Found E-Cigarettes Affect Cells...

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:00 am
by rockonin
People might as well smoke normal cigs then, or just give up.

Re: A New Cancer Study Found E-Cigarettes Affect Cells...

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:05 am
by DJoe
this is quite a weak study really. all it proves is that e-cigs can cause cancer, not that they do cause cancer. the title of the article is so ambiguous as well lol.

Re: A New Cancer Study Found E-Cigarettes Affect Cells...

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:07 am
by rockonin
wub wrote:
Some Daily Mail vibes there;

List Of Things The Daily Mail Says Will Give You Cancer

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Bubble Bath :cornlol:

How regulatory bodies let these tnucs publish is beyond me.

Re: A New Cancer Study Found E-Cigarettes Affect Cells...

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:10 am
by Nihilism
DJoe wrote:this is quite a weak study really. all it proves is that e-cigs can cause cancer, not that they do cause cancer. the title of the article is so ambiguous as well lol.
That goes up for everything, even normal cigs.

Re: A New Cancer Study Found E-Cigarettes Affect Cells...

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:12 am
by wub
rockonin wrote:How regulatory bodies let these tnucs publish is beyond me.
Mail is published by DMG Media group.

DMG Media group is owned by Jonathan Harmsworth, aka 4th Viscount Rothermere

Harmsworth is a Conservative party member, donor, and friend of David Cameron.

Harmsworth also owns his media businesses through a complex structure of offshore holdings and trusts which entail him paying almost no UK tax on his income, investments or wealth.

Re: A New Cancer Study Found E-Cigarettes Affect Cells...

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:16 am
by m8son666
wow what a surprise

Re: A New Cancer Study Found E-Cigarettes Affect Cells...

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:07 pm
by _ronzlo_
What's silly is that they are saying that this is the fault of E cigarettes, when in fact it's nicotine specifically-which has long been known to have this effect. This effect is not particular to E cigarettes, it's just that E cigarettes have it too. That being said, there are better things to vaporize than nicotine. :D

Re: A New Cancer Study Found E-Cigarettes Affect Cells...

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:14 pm
by m8son666
smack?

Re: A New Cancer Study Found E-Cigarettes Affect Cells...

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:17 pm
by nitz
Stocked people when out their way to do a study to something prima facie obvs.

What, did everyone think there was some sort of health benefit in e-cigarettes because there is not tobacco? On that merit, diet coke is sugar free… lets all drink it.

Re: A New Cancer Study Found E-Cigarettes Affect Cells...

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:38 pm
by DiegoSapiens
who cares about cancer if you can stretch your life 20 years as a vegetal thanks to medicines :h: