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Just found my first bad room...

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 6:41 am
by Crimsonghost
and this shit sucks. Its all bass bouncing off the walls. Cant hear what the hell im doing. WTF?! Buw's aint supposed to be this hard! RIght? UGH!! Ive moved 5 times in 5 years, and the one time i actually buy the damn house i get stuck with a room that sounds like pip farting on a snare drum.

/rant over *hashtag* firstworld problems

Might as well put this thead to use use instead of just being the ramblings of a drunk. Tell us what you did when you got a shit room OR vice versa.

Personally, im gonna line my walls with Comcast cable boxes and Seattle Seahawks jerseys. Both of with suck the life out of me, so im sure they can do a decent job of soaking up extra bass.

Re: Just found my first bad room...

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:23 am
by AxeD
I use headphones at home. There's no shortcuts when improving your room's acoustics.
You could consider making it pretty much completely dead though.

Re: Just found my first bad room...

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 6:44 pm
by nowaysj
Y can try and move your listening position and monitors though, at least to get you out of some bass nodes.

Re: Just found my first bad room...

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:29 pm
by Samuel_L_Damnson
Do some reading on room modes so u can see what parts of your room may be holding nodes or standing waves

Re: Just found my first bad room...

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:43 pm
by Crimsonghost
And who says this place can't be helpful? Had no idea about the nodes thing, this should be required reading.

I'll get back to when I figure this out. :Q:

Re: Just found my first bad room...

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:45 pm
by Huts
Just moved and my rooms acoustics are terrible too. So I just listened to a lot of music to get used to how it sounds, and now I'm well adjusted 8)

Re: Just found my first bad room...

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:47 pm
by wub
Good time to look into making your own bass traps?

Re: Just found my first bad room...

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:56 pm
by Paddy McMurphy
Just treat your room, problem solved.

Re: Just found my first bad room...

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:12 pm
by nowaysj
There are people that make six figures because they know how to treat a room. It is not so easy, and if the room's proportions are bad, there is little that can be done about it. Best thing then, just make a dead space, as suggested above, and that is not so easy, or so good.

You can read about wavelengths and wall lengths and ratios and what not, or you can just set up your comp and monitors, and your chair, and start moving around the room. Try along the lines of bilateral symmetry, and just scoot up and down the lines.

My room is so fucked, I'm not even going to try to describe it, but I happen to sit in a sub antinode, but I scoot my chair pretty close to the back wall if I want to hear the sub, and god damn is it loud. I hear like no sub at all in my monitoring position, I get back against the wall and it is insane. I think that is why my neighbors give me those looks. They're hearing that sub I'm not. :lol:

Re: Just found my first bad room...

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:24 pm
by Paddy McMurphy
nowaysj wrote:There are people that make six figures because they know how to treat a room. It is not so easy, and if the room's proportions are bad, there is little that can be done about it. Best thing then, just make a dead space, as suggested above, and that is not so easy, or so good.
Literally the worst advice I've ever read.

Firstly, yes room position is important. This should be set up along with room treatment. But there is no such thing as a "dead space", as different frequencies create different patterns in the room. And move your head an inch or two, and it'll be different again.

Secondly - recommending to not treat a room, and instead rely on shuffling your furniture around is just crazy.

I'd suggest anyone wanting to sort their studio out to ignore this guy. Instead, pick up a book or check the web to find out about room treatments. Bass traps are important, so is understanding the size and shape of your room, the modes, the biggest problems etc. Don't go down the route of just throwing some padding on the walls - this will only treat the high end and make the room darker, but won't touch the bass. In small rooms, bass is always a big problem.

Re: Just found my first bad room...

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:26 am
by Crimsonghost
wub wrote:Good time to look into making your own bass traps?
Ive actually researched it in the past. Im a handy guy so it should be pretty simple. Just comes down to finding the time to do it.

The walls in here are solid pine covered with sheetrock so everything just bounces off like friggin concrete. I just started reading about nodes and whatnot, and its defiantly interesting. I have a feeling im gonna have my hands full with this one.

Re: Just found my first bad room...

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:50 pm
by Samuel_L_Damnson
best thing u can do before u start messing with treatment is getting all ur stuff in the right place. then look at some bass traps if you NEED them. like mentioned before it can be good to get used to the sound of your room and just listen to loads of tunes in there as often as possible. I can never treat my room because im never in the same house for more than a year so i just spend a few weeks blasting tunes before i attempt any serious mixing. Good luck with sorting ur dodgy room anyway bro!!!

Re: Just found my first bad room...

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:51 pm
by Samuel_L_Damnson
Paddy McMurphy wrote:
nowaysj wrote:There are people that make six figures because they know how to treat a room. It is not so easy, and if the room's proportions are bad, there is little that can be done about it. Best thing then, just make a dead space, as suggested above, and that is not so easy, or so good.
Literally the worst advice I've ever read.

Firstly, yes room position is important. This should be set up along with room treatment. But there is no such thing as a "dead space", as different frequencies create different patterns in the room. And move your head an inch or two, and it'll be different again.

Secondly - recommending to not treat a room, and instead rely on shuffling your furniture around is just crazy.

I'd suggest anyone wanting to sort their studio out to ignore this guy. Instead, pick up a book or check the web to find out about room treatments. Bass traps are important, so is understanding the size and shape of your room, the modes, the biggest problems etc. Don't go down the route of just throwing some padding on the walls - this will only treat the high end and make the room darker, but won't touch the bass. In small rooms, bass is always a big problem.
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