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Ok so this doesn't EXACTLY fall under "Production", but I wanted to see if anyone here has used both. I'm assuming that if you have but you've used one over the other than you have a predilection towards the one you're used to... but is there any MAJOR flaws vs advantages.

But So far I've come up with-
Pros for Serato: "Industry" Standard, stability

Pros for Torq Conectiv: VST support, Rewire support, Co$t in comparison, WMA support (which actually really matters to me otherwise i'll be batch converting all my WM files to MP3)

Looks like the nail is in the coffin here but i keep waiting for someone to come along and tell me that Torq really sucks and that it's a toy and not to be taken seriously.

I have been using torq for about 6 months now and I have had no issues with it.

for me..

it wasnt worth saving up another 250 for serato

plus I like the VST support

I have had a lot of problems with Torq. I am not the only one, look at their forum. Actually a few visits to the forums would be the best way to get info. Other than the technical issues, the browser is absolute shite. Hopefully they can upgrade that in the near future. Great value though.

I had my eyes on Traktor Scratch. The only downside there is the price is kinda ridiculous. Might be worth it though, I don't know.

unklefesta wrote:it wasnt worth saving up another 250 for serato

Serato's getting real cheap if you buy it from the US (~ half the european price).
Anyway, from what I've read so far, Torq seems to work as good as Serato but as abZ suggests, comparing official forums you notice more technical issues on Torq's side.

abZ wrote:Other than the technical issues, the browser is absolute shite.

I wouldn't say it's shite, the main problem with the browser that I've found is that unless you're using a laptop with at least a 15" screen the track list box is quite small and fiddly to scroll through, BUT, you can enlarge it to full screen to find your track load it up and then return to the main screen - no long ting.

It took a little while to get used to but it is a great bit of kit for the price. One problem with Torq/Serato and other alike software is that its performance relies heavily on the state of your computer/laptop. I use Torq on my macbook and have never had any technical issues or stutters when playing out with it.

Torq seems to be quite a CPU hog, loaded a friends version on my comp and it was a noticable difference from Serato. Ive had Serato for over 1 and a half and have NEVER had it crash or had one technical problem (when using a final version, one glitch with a beta version which was fixed with a new release within a few days). Torq crashed the first time I used it.

My other problem with Torq is that your computer reads the interface as just that, an audio interface, where as the Serato interface is read as just another USB device, leaving the ability to hook up another audio interface to record with. Someone recently pointed out to me that it may be possible to use Torq's rewire capabilities to work around this so it may be a moot point.

Torq has some nice features, including midi support and rewire/vst capabilities, but if you are just looking for a vinyl emulator, I'd go with Serato. If you wanna incorperate Ableton or plugins, look more into Torq. But realize that its gonna take them a while more to work out the bugs, its only a year old and M-Audio is notorious for rushing products out before beta testing is complete.

Oh and ABZ - Traktor Scratch is just a new version of Final Scratch. Its now called Traktor Scratch because NI got sick of working with Stanton and came out with their own version. Definate benefits to the Traktor interface (4 Decks [2 physical, 2 virtual] being one), but again, if you're just looking for a vinyl emulator, go with Serato.

Look at it this way - Ritchie Hawtin basically invented Final Scratch. Now he uses Serato.

I Have a 17" widescreen. Torq is a lot better on a regular screen but who still buys regular screens? The thing I liked about the Tractor interface is the fact that you can just drag and drop files from folders outside of the computer, you don't even need the browser. Plus I like how you can set up "crates" and shit.

The thing that sold me on the Tractor Scratch was the way it plugs in to the mixer. You can hook up the cable before hand and then there is just one connection from the box to the cable. Plus I already like Tractor. The price is kind of ridiculous tho.

Two words.

Traktor Scratch.

thesynthesist wrote:Two words.

Twelve Hundred.

fixed ?

There is an update coming from Torq where you should be able to customise the interface, ie getting rid of the virtual mixer when in external mode!

The slight drawback for torq is if you want use normal vinyl through the interface it converts the phono into line which in turn dims the the volume but this can be rectified by buying a couple of Y cables.

Still for the best buy with all considered.

Torq = £180

Serato = £450

No brainer

kidlogic wrote:
My other problem with Torq is that your computer reads the interface as just that, an audio interface, where as the Serato interface is read as just another USB device, leaving the ability to hook up another audio interface to record with.

You can just use connectiv as a dongle then use a separate audio device if you want

I got Conective Torq for £140. I've had no problems with it so far at all.

Torq is great. Does exactly what I need.

tempest wrote:Twelve Hundred.

Twelve Hundred what?

Its $400-$600.

technics 1200 i think i was referencing..... pretty out of it when i wrote that i think

thesynthesist wrote:

tempest wrote:Twelve Hundred.

Twelve Hundred what?

Its $400-$600.

I'll do a traktor scratch / Torq face off

let me call my peeps at native instruments

thesynthesist wrote:Two words.

Traktor Scratch.

I've been using it for now 3 months, it's unbelieveable. (but no comparison to other systems)
I use it for Sets in a Club (mixing) as such as for producing in the studio (scratching) i have never had any big problems. Except at one time. The needle at the turntable in the Club was about to crack..therefore, the timecode could'nt be read properly.....

Consider you must have a absolute powerful PC to enjoy it's lovely performance...

if you want to listen what i did, visit coehnundfoehrb.de there is an EP you can download it's not Dubstep but some HipHop...
(it was not my intention to spam here... )

Festa, you're gonna have to Torq off, on your own...

thesynthesist wrote:Festa, you're gonna have to Torq off, on your own...

ZING!!!

So does anybody use Serato?
Im considering vinyl emulation due to the best tunes being unsigned.
I have only heard big things about serato - whats the setup like for torq when you arrive at a gig?