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Last thread on this was good.

I tried this last year but fucked up and got the title wrong so it wasnt good last year lol

it was good from 2012 - 2013 tho

anyway I want the chiraq beats to keep getting weirder like they have been lately.

In terms of bass music I'm not sure what I want really, there's so much good shit to hear for me that's already out

More dim lighting in clubs, less DJM mixers.

I'd have to think about the changes in the actual music.

More funk

more good tunes
less discussion about what makes a good tune

needs a specific bpm people can spazz out about

more juke

less mdma and if you have a guestspot or a feature it has to be from the same race and gender

Less 2 year old bumped threads

People need to stop making so many tracks with very generic sounds appearing again and again without any real vibe to them. I mean not only is it a bit boring to hear the same classic grime sounds, ballroom/vogue sounds and New Jersey Club stuff over and over it also feels like a cash in a bit. It's not like the tracks are brilliant examples of those genres where it does sound similar to other tracks but it just has the right vibe or are does something new. It feels like instead like some producers are just downloading some sample packs and throwing shit together like it's an instant way to make a tune people will play out. We also need more grime at 140 when its the sort of grime that is supposed to be at that speed. Fair enough have it at 130 if it's got that garagey thing going or another element like that but I feel some stuff is just the same as what people used to do but a lot slower which sucks the energy out. There are a lot of people in that general spectrum doing good stuff but I just don't need another pulse remix or something that just rinses all the eski sounds at the wrong tempo.

In terms of what we do need. I'm happy with the fact I can find lots of stuff (mainly in techno) where people are focusing more on having a sound that's interesting or by working on atmosphere rather than wanking over clean production values. It's what ruined dubstep really when I think about it. When everyone in Dungeon started spending all their time making clean drums with the same half time rhythm and wanking over reeeses and lost the coldness that older darker dubstep had or when the new "deep" guys think that it comes from perfectly mixed bongos on everything not on the dirtier sound and more driving rhythms. So yeah I'd rather take some battered noisy techno where it sounds like they just fucked about having fun with hardware to make crazy noises or like they're making a dark ambient/industrial record that you just happen to be able to dance to over a by the numbers dubstep or "130" tune where it has a number of sonic tropes and structural standards over and over.

We also need more danceable house rather than "nice" house. I want something with more of a sleazy groove than a pleasant chord progression

I like top 40 jersey/footwork remixes

The point isnt always to make some groundbreaking newgenre, its just to get a good/catchy tune to fit well in the mix

Dont really see the need for less of that

Yeah the sample-pack-signature-sounds-as-substance thing is a problem IMO.

Some tunes are horrible with that. FaltyDLs remix of Buck N Bury is some of the wankiest music I heard this year for instance, starts of with jungle breaks edited to sound like they're coming from room next door and then goes on to jam 9 different signature jungle samples in there ("you dream of heeaveeeaan"). Same with that Mark Pritchard jungle release. NO VIBE AT ALL. I've had this rant about 200 times on here so I'll shut up about it now but yeah, it's terrible.

@dickman
I'm fine with that shit. It's the trendy london idiot jersey club that's the problem. Like just hearing the same kick pattern and samples over and over with nothing there to hook you in. You know the stuff that people would play in a "130" set. It's not catchy is the point. You could make the most generic jersy club ever if it had the right dancefloor vibe, just now we the same thing happening with it that happens with pointless classic grime samples in everything

but I feel some stuff is just the same as what people used to do but a lot slower which sucks the energy out

which is what dubstep is to dnb heads and dnb is to breakcore heads

but yeah good post. There needs to be a sence of urgency in the production of dance music and if the urgency doesn't come from trying to get on a radio or getting a dj to play it, then it quickly becomes either more commercial or it becomes more like a sort of little half private FB update.

mark pritchard and fracture must be trying to impress a step son or something

lending out car keys and going hoodie shopping etc

Less progressive bigroom house and edm trap. Less tracks with amazing sound design but which are musically crap. More percussion. More low-midrange (aka more warmth). Less ultra compressed white noise on the top of everything. I'm okay with tracks being loud. Less Native Instruments, less Nexus. More real instruments. Less cheesy female vocals which crappy lyrics.Stereotypical more bass.More cowbell. More creativity. Less growls, more reeses. Some new talented unknown artists coming up. Less ads with edm playing on the background, makes it look worse every year. More 140-175bpm, less 100-128bpm.

I've had this rant about 200 times on here so I'll shut up about it now but yeah, it's terrible.

no no it's appreciated

I want the UK road people to stop trying to do trap entirely lol

UK trap is completely uncreative compared to the american stuff...Atlanta and Chicago are moving forward so fast and guys like Footsie are sitting around making the most fucking basic rebore hat roll trap beats

_Agu_ wrote:Less progressive bigroom house and edm trap. Less tracks with amazing sound design but which are musically crap. More percussion. More low-midrange (aka more warmth). Less ultra compressed white noise on the top of everything. I'm okay with tracks being loud. Less Native Instruments, less Nexus. More real instruments. Less cheesy female vocals which crappy lyrics.Stereotypical more bass.More cowbell. More creativity. Less growls, more reeses. Some new talented unknown artists coming up. Less ads with edm playing on the background, makes it look worse every year. More 140-175bpm, less 100-128bpm.

although I agree with the potential of this way of laying it out, because of how it breeds quality - I must admit that I personally haven't experienced any new sort of sound design for a couple of years... there was granular fx and a tiny bit of the fm type of fx that people have taken in and used on bass that slightly expanded the reese sound but most of it is still 2004 or so territory imo.

this is what it's about. Leading not following