US Infiltrated Cuban Hip-Hop Scene to Subvert Gov't.

[_ronzlo_]

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ce2a878e ... ark-change

(FACEPALM)

Sorry, Cuba. I mean not personally, but for shit being done with my tax dollars.

PS: someone tell me again why US covert institutions wouldn't use this same tactic at home to, say, encourage the youth of certain demographics to continue "playin' tha Game," ie killing each other and feeding the growing, hungry prison cartel? Doesn't sound quite as crazy no mo'.

[dansci]

Wasn't hip hop originally about starting revolutions and bringing equality and empowerment?


As for the thing about government infiltration of american hip hop and making it violent... People in the ghetto love violence and gang banging... If hip hop dosent fulfill that role then some other form of music would emerge to take its place.

[_ronzlo_]

People in the ghetto love violence and gang banging...

No.

Look up rates of black on black violence during the Great Depression: there were gangs and gang violence but not not even close to being as lopsided as now.

Poverty makes people desperate; ignorance allows desperation to manifest in violent ways. But saying that 'ghetto people love violence' is glib at best.

[Harkat]

Chief Keef is an inside job

[_ronzlo_]

Chief Keef is an inside job

Chief Keef is the product of a supremely fucked up socioeconomic background* coupled with teenage testosterone and access to resources nobody his age should have access to. I sincerely hope he survives this phase of his life and gets the chance to gain some perspective and get to use his talent for something better instead of squandering it on opportunist media fucks try'na exploit him.

* I'm from Chicago originally. If you've never been deep in the South Side or anywhere equally squalid, it's hard to grasp just how institutionally fucked the place is. Imagine 'Escape From New York' where there are places even the cops, firefighters, etc. just will not go and then imagine being raised as a child - possibly by another slightly older child - in such a place.

[Harkat]

did you know he has two kids? Also hes moved to the suburbs and has started making beats very successfully

[nowaysj]

Doesn't sound quite as crazy no mo'.

The same company owns gangsta music co and the prison system in the US. The connection is not hard to see. In fact, it is glaringly obvious.

[dansci]

People in the ghetto love violence and gang banging...

No.

Look up rates of black on black violence during the Great Depression: there were gangs and gang violence but not not even close to being as lopsided as now.

Poverty makes people desperate; ignorance allows desperation to manifest in violent ways. But saying that 'ghetto people love violence' is glib at best.

Trying to reference black crime statistics from the Great Depression will only lead you to some screwed up conclusions. In the 30s, blacks were primarily concentrated in the rural south and were still undergoing the process of urban migration. Now blacks are the most urban group in the country.

BTW, ghetto is not an income level or a label for poverty or a skin color... It's a lifestyle. There are plenty of ghetto people who are rich and poor. There are plenty of ghetto people who are white, Hispanic, and black. It's kinda sad that you made an assumption that I was talking about blacks when I was just talking about stupid idiots.

[cyclopian]

People in the ghetto love violence and gang banging...

No.

Look up rates of black on black violence during the Great Depression: there were gangs and gang violence but not not even close to being as lopsided as now.

Poverty makes people desperate; ignorance allows desperation to manifest in violent ways. But saying that 'ghetto people love violence' is glib at best.

Trying to reference black crime statistics from the Great Depression will only lead you to some screwed up conclusions. In the 30s, blacks were primarily concentrated in the rural south and were still undergoing the process of urban migration. Now blacks are the most urban group in the country.

BTW, ghetto is not an income level or a label for poverty or a skin color... It's a lifestyle. There are plenty of ghetto people who are rich and poor. There are plenty of ghetto people who are white, Hispanic, and black. It's kinda sad that you made an assumption that I was talking about blacks when I was just talking about stupid idiots.

You are seriously fucking dumb.

[nowaysj]

Cyclopian is seriously gangsta.

[nousd]

so those old guys in Buena Vista Social Club were in on it too?
Thought they were a bit suss becoming internationally recognized & all.
I bet they took a few pesos off the CIA to play that opiate-of-the-masses music.

[nowaysj]

For decades in art circles it was either a rumour or a joke, but now it is confirmed as a fact. The Central Intelligence Agency used American modern art - including the works of such artists as Jackson Pollock, Robert Motherwell, Willem de Kooning and Mark Rothko - as a weapon in the Cold War. In the manner of a Renaissance prince - except that it acted secretly - the CIA fostered and promoted American Abstract Expressionist painting around the world for more than 20 years.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 78808.html

[nousd]

so Pollock's Blue Poles was a call for royalist Poles to resist the reds...huh, amazin'

[Shum]

Wonder if Mala and Gilles copped some cash to help with their album?

[nowaysj]

Rabbit Hole *ALERT*