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"Rape"

Post by jaydot » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:53 pm

so-with all the Ched Evan's shitstorm recently it got me thinking-what defines "rape" loosely involuntary penetration, right? Therefore how do you deem sex to be consensual without "verbal agreement" (because who verbally agrees to have sex< esp. when intoxicated??) What differs the Evans case to a lot in the media is she wasn't dragged off the street or physically assaulted in any way-I've tried to avoid the story as it was getting a bit grating-but I believe the young woman was having sex with Evans' friend and he joined in-imo that's not strictly cut and dry as rape in the sense that the media reports every week seemingly-so were Evans' actions tantamount to "rape" or something like aggravated sexual assault-how would you define rape? Should he be banished from the game?
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Post by chekov » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:58 pm

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chekov wrote:this can only go well
Come on you're capable of a mature adult discussion right
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Post by RKM » Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:05 pm

hypothetically jayman, you're having sex with your girlfriend, ched evans enters the room and starts having sex with you

what are your thoughts here
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Post by chekov » Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:10 pm

jaydot wrote:
chekov wrote:this can only go well
Come on you're capable of a mature adult discussion right
sorry been a long day

i haven't actually been following this story and can't see any description of what happened in that bbc article but i can't imagine it happened as innocently as you described it if he was sentenced to five years
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Post by SignalRecon » Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:14 pm

in California, having sex with a girl who says yes after she's had a single drink is rape.

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Post by chekov » Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:17 pm

SignalRecon wrote:in California, having sex with a girl who says yes after she's had a single drink is rape.
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Post by soronery » Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:17 pm

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Post by jaydot » Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:17 pm

RKM wrote:hypothetically jayman, you're having sex with your girlfriend, ched evans enters the room and starts having sex with you

what are your thoughts here
Depends-if they'd met/conversed during that night/in the hotel room-if they're unacquainted I see why it's bad. Even so in the day and age of contentious rape cases and false rape claims always best to be sure
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i herd a funny thing someone said yesterday. you can get raped without getting touched
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Post by mIrReN » Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:54 pm

jaydot wrote:
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Come on you're capable of a mature adult discussion right
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its a old member again, dza was here a week ago
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Post by nowaysj » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:35 pm

jaydot wrote:so-with all the Ched Evan's shitstorm recently it got me thinking-what defines "rape" loosely involuntary penetration, right? Therefore how do you deem sex to be consensual without "verbal agreement" (because who verbally agrees to have sex< esp. when intoxicated??) What differs the Evans case to a lot in the media is she wasn't dragged off the street or physically assaulted in any way-I've tried to avoid the story as it was getting a bit grating-but I believe the young woman was having sex with Evans' friend and he joined in-imo that's not strictly cut and dry as rape in the sense that the media reports every week seemingly-so were Evans' actions tantamount to "rape" or something like aggravated sexual assault-how would you define rape? Should he be banished from the game?
This is the sum total of what I know about this Ched Evan, other than the paris shotting was a ff to protect his interests.

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