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you'd think there'd be a video of it knocking about the internet, but alas no[/quote]In the Director's Cut version, the biggest clue for analysts was the appearance of a unicorn on screen while Deckard is lost in thought.
The image of the mythical creature appears again towards the end of the film when he picks up an origami model discarded by another character, Gaff.
As the replicants had no memories of their own, they had to be implanted, and fans interpreted the appearance of the model as a sign that Gaff knew what Deckard was thinking because it was an image shared by other non-humans.
In Channel 4's documentary On The Edge Of Blade Runner, Scott discusses the scenes and asked what they mean, he confirms with a grin: "He's a replicant".
Not seen the film for a long time but, im pretty sure there is a scene in the film that suggests he is a droid.tempest wrote:holy shit !
I studied this for my hsc, wish i payed more attention then
I think it should be up to the reader / audience to make up their own minds. A bit disappointed in Ridley Scott for coming out and confirming it either way to be honest.metalboxproducts wrote:And shouldn't it be up to the guy who wrote the book to confirm this, not some film director?
What do the audience know?Contakt wrote:I think it should be up to the reader / audience to make up their own minds. A bit disappointed in Ridley Scott for coming out and confirming it either way to be honest.metalboxproducts wrote:And shouldn't it be up to the guy who wrote the book to confirm this, not some film director?
Although the film is a lot more explicit about it than the book. The whole unicorn image and so on...
Dunno man, there's been plenty good sci-fi movies in the last few years. They're just different, more human, more plausible almost. Like we don't get the vast, grandiose universes or visions of the future created anymore like Star Wars, Blade Runner, Dune. We get films like Sunshine, Children of Men, A Scanner Darkly, then we get cool films that are nothing more than dramas with sci-fi elements, Donnie Darko, Primer, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.*Grand* wrote:I have a real passion for science fiction.. it hasn't really been stimulated though in the 21st century, which is a real shame.
i know.. its just i don't consider that they are Sci Fi. its that Grand vision of the future that i consider Sci Fi.Auan wrote:Dunno man, there's been plenty good sci-fi movies in the last few years. They're just different, more human, more plausible almost. Like we don't get the vast, grandiose universes or visions of the future created anymore like Star Wars, Blade Runner, Dune. We get films like Sunshine, Children of Men, A Scanner Darkly, then we get cool films that are nothing more than dramas with sci-fi elements, Donnie Darko, Primer, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.*Grand* wrote:I have a real passion for science fiction.. it hasn't really been stimulated though in the 21st century, which is a real shame.
It's good, just different.
What really worries me is that no one is making movies for older kids anymore, the kind of things like Dark Crystal, Never Ending Story, Labyrinth, stuff that's a bit scary for kids but on the whole harmless and just a bloody good story.*Grand* wrote:i know.. its just i don't consider that they are Sci Fi. its that Grand vision of the future that i consider Sci Fi.Auan wrote:Dunno man, there's been plenty good sci-fi movies in the last few years. They're just different, more human, more plausible almost. Like we don't get the vast, grandiose universes or visions of the future created anymore like Star Wars, Blade Runner, Dune. We get films like Sunshine, Children of Men, A Scanner Darkly, then we get cool films that are nothing more than dramas with sci-fi elements, Donnie Darko, Primer, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.*Grand* wrote:I have a real passion for science fiction.. it hasn't really been stimulated though in the 21st century, which is a real shame.
It's good, just different.
and its that sort of vision that has been lacking in recent years. shame really. The old films would inspire when i was little.
hold tight the creativity that it instilled in me.
Dumb downed sci fi is what we don't need, films like Alien are good for your seed .. lo.. disregard that there!
Yeah, you're right. A lot of Philip K Dick books are ambiguous (maybe purposefully, maybe because he was off his tree most of the time!).metalboxproducts wrote:Well wasn't that the whole piont of Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. He very well mihjt be a droid himself. And shouldn't it be up to the guy who wrote the book to confirm this, not some film director?
That was on in a terrible Glasgow trendy pub with the sound off but it looked amazing. And thanks to you, I now know what it's called. Thankyouthankyouthankyou.datura wrote:Grand - have you seen Casshern? That's probably the most grandiose recent sci-fi. The plot is a bit meh but it looks absolutely amazing.
No i haven't i will check it out. i guess its probably the reason as to why i have been watching so much anime. i feel in recent years, a movies have become more about making money, most films that have had the potential for being good get dumbed down so that parents can take their children to the cinema. Transformers was pretty good, but would have been superb without the children's humor, it was a cartoon created in the 80, hence all that would have watched it would be my age or older.datura wrote:Yeah, you're right. A lot of Philip K Dick books are ambiguous (maybe purposefully, maybe because he was off his tree most of the time!).metalboxproducts wrote:Well wasn't that the whole piont of Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. He very well mihjt be a droid himself. And shouldn't it be up to the guy who wrote the book to confirm this, not some film director?
I'd always assumed he was an android from watching the film.
Grand - have you seen Casshern? That's probably the most grandiose recent sci-fi. The plot is a bit meh but it looks absolutely amazing.
Primer is one of my all-time favourite films. It's superbly understated but maddeningly complicated at the same time.Auan wrote:Dunno man, there's been plenty good sci-fi movies in the last few years. They're just different, more human, more plausible almost. Like we don't get the vast, grandiose universes or visions of the future created anymore like Star Wars, Blade Runner, Dune. We get films like Sunshine, Children of Men, A Scanner Darkly, then we get cool films that are nothing more than dramas with sci-fi elements, Donnie Darko, Primer, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.*Grand* wrote:I have a real passion for science fiction.. it hasn't really been stimulated though in the 21st century, which is a real shame.
It's good, just different.
I would like to add Cypher to that list. Brilliant film, one of the best, most subtle visions of the future I've ever seen, sometimes you barely notice it's a sci-fi.Auan wrote:Dunno man, there's been plenty good sci-fi movies in the last few years. They're just different, more human, more plausible almost. Like we don't get the vast, grandiose universes or visions of the future created anymore like Star Wars, Blade Runner, Dune. We get films like Sunshine, Children of Men, A Scanner Darkly, then we get cool films that are nothing more than dramas with sci-fi elements, Donnie Darko, Primer, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.*Grand* wrote:I have a real passion for science fiction.. it hasn't really been stimulated though in the 21st century, which is a real shame.
It's good, just different.