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Mixing and eq'in dubstep

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:07 pm
by fuzz
Ez all
Ive been mixing for about 2.5 years now, used to mix dnb and a bit of electro house, now the dub bug has hit me haha, but my problem is, when i mix to vinyl, if ones dropped, the basses dont clash but when 2 drop, no matter if there low eq are the same volume or not, they clash and sound shite
how do you stop this?

help would be wikid, cheers

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:09 pm
by badga tek
Dunno about other people but I always avoid having two basslines playing at the same time. If one's 'on', then I have the other low EQ knob set to the minimum

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:35 am
by Lurka
Badga Tek wrote: If one's 'on', then I have the other low EQ knob set to the minimum
pretty much have to do this but in a lot of tunes u can still hear the other basslines mid frequencies so dont need to have both low eqs ramped in order to hear them both necesarily! :D

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:40 am
by pdomino
Lower the bass eq on one or the other, SIMPLE :!:

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:47 am
by boomnoise
don't cross the basslines

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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:49 am
by dj $hy
^^^Quality boomy!

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:02 am
by thomas e. griffin
Have a look at getting a mixer with more extreme eqs. I've got a stanton Smx 501 and it has 100% eq kills. ie. when you turn the bass to the mimimum position then the corresponding frequency band is off (not quieter). I reckon it's a good mixer to mix dubstep on but I suppose it's whatever you've learnt with.

And don't be afraid of the disonance. It's what hiphop harmony is built on.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:06 pm
by ts (yesyesiow)
depends what the two basslines are really. sometimes a really pure sine waved sub (tune 1 in this example) can be turned down but not completely when track 2 drops. provided the actual sounds and patterns of the basslines dont clash it can give extra weight to a mix and sound double bad................

But be warned, this depends on the system that your playing on and how well you know it, its a potential cone blower!

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:16 pm
by compound one
boomnoise wrote:don't cross the basslines

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Unless it works!

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:18 pm
by boomnoise
of course.

there are no rules!

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:27 pm
by contraband
Not such a big deal in the bedroom, but in a club / on a PA you can't play 2 tunes without EQ'ing one bassline out - it's just sounds of noise.

Maybe not on the moniters or whatever, but it sounds shit on the main system.


Honestley it does. You're not a "badman bringin da bass", you're just a bad DJ.


Cut


It


Out.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:47 pm
by typo
contraband wrote:You're not a "badman bringin da bass", you're just a bad DJ.
:n: :z:

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:45 pm
by ts (yesyesiow)
contraband wrote:Not such a big deal in the bedroom, but in a club / on a PA you can't play 2 tunes without EQ'ing one bassline out - it's just sounds of noise.

Maybe not on the moniters or whatever, but it sounds shit on the main system.


Honestley it does. You're not a "badman bringin da bass", you're just a bad DJ.


Cut


It


Out.
Just


Watch


The Redlines


Thats


What


They


Are


For

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:15 pm
by powerpill
dont rely on the lights too much, your ears are your friends

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:37 pm
by contraband
TS (yesyesIOW) wrote:
contraband wrote:Not such a big deal in the bedroom, but in a club / on a PA you can't play 2 tunes without EQ'ing one bassline out - it's just sounds of noise.

Maybe not on the moniters or whatever, but it sounds shit on the main system.


Honestley it does. You're not a "badman bringin da bass", you're just a bad DJ.


Cut


It


Out.
Just


Watch


The Redlines


Thats


What


They


Are


For
You're not going to hear any definition in the bass though, just a wall of bass, red line or not.

Sounds gash imo.

That's the reason top DJ's are top DJ's - they know how to EQ a track. They cut the bass out when 2 tracks are running. Watch anyone from Andy C to A Skills

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:25 pm
by kidlogic
contraband wrote:
TS (yesyesIOW) wrote:
contraband wrote:Not such a big deal in the bedroom, but in a club / on a PA you can't play 2 tunes without EQ'ing one bassline out - it's just sounds of noise.

Maybe not on the moniters or whatever, but it sounds shit on the main system.


Honestley it does. You're not a "badman bringin da bass", you're just a bad DJ.


Cut


It


Out.
Just


Watch


The Redlines


Thats


What


They


Are


For
You're not going to hear any definition in the bass though, just a wall of bass, red line or not.

Sounds gash imo.

That's the reason top DJ's are top DJ's - they know how to EQ a track. They cut the bass out when 2 tracks are running. Watch anyone from Andy C to A Skills
Dude, are you kidding? Andy C double drops all the time. As do way too many other dnb djs. It can work, if your basses are in tune and the melodies dont clash too much, you just need to know your tunes.

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:44 pm
by Horza
Yeah double dropping tunes should be kept to a minimum but if done at the right time with the right 2 tunes it can be an absolutely astounding experience! Saw Andy C at heaven last year and his doubledroppin skills are amazing!

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:21 pm
by contraband
Obviously I know he dbl drops that's why I used him as an example, I've been lucky enough to see him DJ up close in the club I play at a few times - and he cuts ALL the bass out of one of the tunes when he's double dropping.


You should have the bass cut in half from the channel that you're bringing in even if it hasn't dropped yet, because 2 full EQ'd kicks will sound shitty as well

remember....


imo imo imo imo imo imo

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:25 am
by le_hardcore_chiefus
its all practice i supppose, i`m liking finding this out...gna be even better when i get my rane...fuck yerr!

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:43 am
by saba
Its all about practice & more practice, trying tunes that work well with each other & more practice. Ideally you should be practicing out loud & it doesn't help when you live in an apartment & you have neighbours complaining about noise levels. :lol: