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"...adventures in sonic fiction"
anyone read this book by kodwo eschuun? i read it a few years ago. got it out from the library again for my mate. just re-read it. fucking wicked! "virtualizing the breakbeat". got some connection to kode n spaceape i think, some similar ideas on music.

it's a sonic fiction classic.

eshun is a badman

ajantis_art wrote:got some connection to kode n spaceape i think, some similar ideas on music.

Steve apparently worked with Kodwo Eshun in an academic sense a while back

They were involved in a research project called ccru somehow affiliated with Warwick university I think...

http://ccru.net/

http://k-punk.abstractdynamics.org/archives/004807.html

Interesting work for anyone into Deleuze, De Landa, Sadie Plant, etc..

wrong forum.. ajantis.. with a name like that.. you should be moving secret...

nah it's the right forum grand. very much so.

i remember the last time ccru came up though. haha

kodwo's doing interesting things these days with the Otolith Group, as well as lecuturing at goldsmiths.

if anyone's got academic journal access, this is well worth a read

http://muse.jhu.edu/login?uri=/journals ... eshun.html

would be very interesting to get his take on dubstep.

boomnoise wrote:
i remember the last time ccru came up though. haha

kodwo's doing interesting things these days with the Otolith Group, as well as lecuturing at goldsmiths.

fuck yes

It's an essential book for anyone who wants to look deeper.

Should also rep for Sadie Plant.... look for 'Writing On Drugs'

boomnoise wrote: if anyone's got academic journal access, this is well worth a read

http://muse.jhu.edu/login?uri=/journals ... eshun.html

I was flicking trough that the other day, excellent writing. I still can't find a copy of More Brilliant Than The Sun though, I do hope it sees a reprint soon.

Its the most inspiring thing I think I've read regarding music, the enthusiasm with which Kodwo writes is infectious if a little overblown in parts - though I guess thats the point of the book.

Havent read it but been meaning to. Given that it's 10 yrs old now and a lot has changed. Has it become fixed in its time or transcended it ? Were any musical predictions made in it that have been realised ?

IIRC the emphasis lay on advanced rythmn being the future of music (rather than the textured soundscapes sci-fi often insinuates as such).

There are plenty of examples of rythmically advanced music about - Flying Lotus, 2562, Peverelist - though I feel the book was intended more as a celebration of contemporary experimentalists than a prophecy.

narcossist wrote:IIRC the emphasis lay on advanced rythmn being the future of music (rather than the textured soundscapes sci-fi often insinuates as such).

There are plenty of examples of rythmically advanced music about - Flying Lotus, 2562, Peverelist - though I feel the book was intended more as a celebration of contemporary experimentalists than a prophecy.

I can't remember which book in William Gibson's Sprawl trilogy it was, but wasn't there Rasta a space tug pilot in one of them who constantly had some digi-dub riddims playing in the headphones around his neck? From a sect that found Zion from out of the Earth?

Been years since I read them.

stanton wrote:

narcossist wrote:IIRC the emphasis lay on advanced rythmn being the future of music (rather than the textured soundscapes sci-fi often insinuates as such).

There are plenty of examples of rythmically advanced music about - Flying Lotus, 2562, Peverelist - though I feel the book was intended more as a celebration of contemporary experimentalists than a prophecy.

I can't remember which book in William Gibson's Sprawl trilogy it was, but wasn't there Rasta a space tug pilot in one of them who constantly had some digi-dub riddims playing in the headphones around his neck? From a sect that found Zion from out of the Earth?

Been years since I read them.

That's Neuromancer

i properly want to read this, looked everywhere but can't even find a copy in the British library! whats that about

Maelcum was his name.

Need to find this somewhere too.

Can anybody reccomend others in this vein?

elgato wrote:i properly want to read this, looked everywhere but can't even find a copy in the British library! whats that about

think it sold out everywhere. I ordered 1 that turned out not to be in stock. someone probably took it from the library.

We were trying to get Kodwo Eschun to come and talk at our event on 3rd May with Kode 9 but unfortuately he couldn't make the date

IF we can get permission/find a distributer to hire one of his films then we will try and show one of them...

i think this goes for big bucks now. was talking to a friend about this book recently.

ocean of sound by david toop is a great read too for anyone who might be tempted into 'this sort of thing'.