start djing on vinyl? or straight to laptop bla bla

wizard · Post by **wizard** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:16 pm

wanna start dunno where

__________ · Post by **__________** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:57 pm

there's about 50 of these threads already, and you might get more help if you state your budget, requirements, understanding etc, rather than saying 'wanna start dunno where' with a miserable face.
nobody will want to help you if you can't be bothered to write properly in your own topic!

use the search function!

sarcasm aside,
i'd say don't bother starting, there's plenty of djs already.
someone will always have more records than you and be better at selecting them, so just don't fucking bother mate, thats my advice.
unless you already have vinyl, go mp3 on a laptop because digging through crates is for fucking muppets and nobody uses turntables any more in any clubs.

hope this helps

__________ · Post by **__________** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:15 pm

daft cunt · Post by **daft cunt** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:28 pm

Agree with £10 Bag (sarcasm aside

). If you don't feel an unrestrained need to play vinyls then it might not be for you so go budget and have fun with your laptop.

manray · Post by **manray** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:51 pm

£10 Bag wrote:i'd say don't bother starting, there's plenty of djs already.
someone will always have more records than you and be better at selecting them, so just don't fucking bother mate, thats my advice.
unless you already have vinyl, go mp3 on a laptop because digging through crates is for fucking muppets and nobody uses turntables any more in any clubs.

hope this helps

Most people start DJing for the fun of it. Whether or not you get past your bedroom is irrelevent IMO. What keeps the scene together? It's certainly not laptop DJ's, its guys buying vinyl every week that keep things going and maximum boost for people that do.

I mix both Laptop,Vinyl, CD depending and personally i find Vinyl much nicer, the feel of the thing is something you dont get with a laptop or CDs. I think most DJ's will say the same thing. It just comes down to the money aspect. £5-7 per vinyl gets pricey.

taal mala · Post by **taal mala** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:36 am

I started on vinyl and switched to laptop because I couldn't afford dubplates and wanted to play my original tracks, and cd's are for trance DJs. I used the laptop for a while and realized it sounds like rubbish compared to vinyl, so I saved me pennies, cut some dubplates, and became addicted to checking multiple online record stores several times a day and spending every bit of cash I have on records. Because they sound best. And feel best.

djshiva · Post by **djshiva** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:54 am

manray wrote: Most people start DJing for the fun of it. Whether or not you get past your bedroom is irrelevent IMO. What keeps the scene together? It's certainly not laptop DJ's, its guys buying vinyl every week that keep things going and maximum boost for people that do.

no offense, but those of us who actually buy the digital releases and promote this music are doing our part for the scene too. i buy vinyl when i have to, and digital because it's easier to get and cheaper. i kinda resent the implication that because i am not using all vinyl all the time that i have nothing to contribute. thanks bunches.

mae · Post by **mae** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:20 am

£10 Bag wrote: unless you already have vinyl, go mp3 on a laptop because digging through crates is for fucking muppets and nobody uses turntables any more in any clubs.

nuthin wrong with digging in the crates...

switchdubs · Post by **switchdubs** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:27 am

use setaro, dont leave the 1210s to gather dust, thats sacrelidge. all your mp3 and your vinyl can be used so your not resrticted to either, all on your decks. its the way forward!

__________ · Post by **__________** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:35 am

fyi i was taking the piss with my first post.

obviously vinyl is the way forward in terms of sound and fun, but blah blah blah blah we've all heard this debate a million times blah blah hence me taking the piss.

but i made some good points, the thread starter didn't specify fuck all about his requirements, and

''someone will always have more records than you and be better at selecting them, so just don't fucking bother mate, thats my advice.''

no point in starting djing if you want to be just like n-type for instance.
its about making a councious effort to amass as many great records that you really feel, and make a commitment to try and play them out to people in the right order.

i dunno where to start

get some records and play them to people at a gig? you don't have to be able to mix to dj. you don't need your own decks or good equipment. you just need records and an ear for when to drop the next tune

thinking · Post by **thinking** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:39 am

sapphic_beats wrote:
manray wrote: Most people start DJing for the fun of it. Whether or not you get past your bedroom is irrelevent IMO. What keeps the scene together? It's certainly not laptop DJ's, its guys buying vinyl every week that keep things going and maximum boost for people that do.
no offense, but those of us who actually buy the digital releases and promote this music are doing our part for the scene too. i buy vinyl when i have to, and digital because it's easier to get and cheaper. i kinda resent the implication that because i am not using all vinyl all the time that i have nothing to contribute. thanks bunches.

I have to agree, despite the fact that I've never bought a digi-release in my life. mp3 sales provide way more profit than vinyl, and therefore are actually of greater benefit to the labels than selling records. A few years down the line and we will all be DJing on serato/CDJs, mark my words.

dubbeldutch · Post by **dubbeldutch** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:49 am

ThinKing wrote: I have to agree, despite the fact that I've never bought a digi-release in my life. mp3 sales provide way more profit than vinyl, and therefore are actually of greater benefit to the labels than selling records. A few years down the line and we will all be DJing on serato/CDJs, mark my words.

Are we talking about dubstep here? I'd hope that more people are buying up vinyl than downloading dubstep MP3s. I'd also like to think that most underground labels aren't all in it for the fat profits (but I'm an idealist). I suppose digital sales in theory would be more profitable because there's relatively no overhead, when contrasted to the risky material investment involved in producing vinyl. Yet, the fact that someone or some label thinks their tunes good enough to press onto vinyl exhibits some faith to me, whereas a digital release seems not to require the same level of conviction. BTW I'm in no way trying to knock any of the extremely talented artists who digi-release I just have a romantic bias to dance music culture (and hell, if I had it my way we all could press vinyl in our basements out of molten plastic shopping bags).

My counter-prophecy: After the earth's population dies off and millions of years pass, visitors from another solar system will mine for resources and chance upon fossilized dubplates.

djshiva · Post by **djshiva** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:59 am

keep in mind that those of us who buy digital are still PLAYING the tunes out where people can hear them. that promotes the ones that are available in vinyl form as well. i encourage people to buy the tunes in whatever format suits them best.

as long as people are buying the tunes because they heard whoever play it on whatever format, the tunes get bought, the producers get paid, the music continues to be made, and people get to hear great music.

isn't that the point?

manray · Post by **manray** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:41 am

I don't have facts and figures but I'm fairly certain that digital releases account for a very small percentage when it comes to dubstep.

Well done for you for buying the tunes but there are plenty that just jack them up. Like _any_ small underground scene, even the likes of Drum and Bass, Vinyl is the mainstay of the artists IMO.

future producer · Post by **future producer** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:33 pm

I don't like vinyl any more, it's a bit to vanilla, I much prefer CD/Laptop combo. Horses for courses though.

Try:

Numark X2 Hybrid turntable which has a built in CD player. You can mix both CD and vinyl from the same deck and also control your CDs as you would vinyl (you'd want a pair though)

Or/then chuck in Serato Live where you can play songs from your laptop but control them from your decks so you mix like you would on vinyl.

Vice T · Post by **Vice T** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:50 am

I think if you call yourself a DJ yo need to own records. Even if your a digital dj.

esoundc · Post by **esoundc** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:22 am

records is good, but also there is some music that u cannot find on plastic, so it seems all both have they charm.
as for me i'm a turntable fan, u know scratching and all that!

abZ · Post by **abZ** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:29 am

I have to do my thing on the turntables. Digital but on the the decks. Been doing this for 12 years, you can't teach an old dog new tricks. I would totally recommend bypassing manual djing if you are starting now. Its becoming an obsolete skill, why bother? Don't waste your time. Get right into learning the important shit like digging for tunes and finding what tunes go together. That is infinitely more important than knowing how to line up some beats. But if that interests you, by all means.

Hide_One · Post by **Hide_One** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:47 pm

depends why you wanna DJ. If u wanna get real good real fast and get some gigs soon i'd go with laptop. If ur wierd like me and just wanna DJ for the love of music and coz its more fun than just listening to I Tunes get vinyl. Plus IMO the best releases are on vinyl.

wooda916 · Post by **wooda916** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:30 pm

£10 Bag wrote:get some records and play them to people at a gig? you don't have to be able to mix to dj. you don't need your own decks or good equipment. you just need records and an ear for when to drop the next tune

think it depends who your playing to with that one.

when i go to a rave/club/party etc. part of my enjoyment comes from watching how the dj mixes, how they use eq's / fx, how well they beatmatch ect ect. but this is probally because i mix myself so have a ear for it.

i think if you play to people that dont necessarily care too much about that though and just want to hear good tunes being dropped in a decent order then yea i agree. i mean i have really enjoyed sets from people who blatently cant beatmatch but there tune selection was top notch, but ive also had to move to a differant room because of a dj's inablity to mix/tune select...

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