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post a "how to video"
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:07 am
by tenbucc2
Not sure how many of you will find this useful but it looks promising. I personally like video tutorials... maybe because i'm illiterate. Saw this site on Download Squad where you can create screen casts and use their site to host the file and you can post them on your blog, web page, etc. Now we can finally flood this forum with links to 600 videos on how to make a wobbler:) Let the good times roll!!!!!
http://freescreencast.com/[/url]
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:14 am
by __________
please don't.
tell someone how to make a tune and they will make a tune like you told them.
tell someone to fuck off and learn their software, and they will learn their software and make some of their OWN music, or they will give up and realise they're shit at making tunes.
try not to look at music as something that's made with a program on a computer, look at it as a collection of sounds that makes the listener feeeeeeel something.
''how do i make a tune?'' is the same as ''how do i fuck with someone's emotions?'' imho.
also, there's how-to vids on youtube already.
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:22 am
by djake
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:46 am
by slothrop
£10 Bag wrote:tell someone how to make a tune and they will make a tune like you told them.
tell someone to fuck off and learn their software, and they will learn their software and make some of their OWN music, or they will give up and realise they're shit at making tunes.
Lots of great guitarists started learning by doing covers.
Sure there's lots of people who just want to learn to make totally generic tunes that sound as much as possible like Coki because that's as far as their ambition stretches. But learning from a tutorial can be a good way to start learning your software.
Plus, in general, learning to imitate one element of a track doesn't mean you just want to make something that sounds exactly like that track. You might want to change the process and just keep some aspects of the sound, you might be looking to use something similar in a totally different context. Learning how to make a specifc sound can be a good way of finding out more about how your equipment works and what it can do.
I certainly think there's good reasons for, y'know, telling people how to do some stuff. And the people who are into it for the wrong reasons will probably never do anything worthwhile either way, so you can just ignore them...
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:18 am
by __________
yeah thats my take on it anyway, but thats just me. i like making people fall over and ask ''why the fuck do we have to listen to this? this is horrible, put on some drum and bass''
i still think its not a good idea telling people how to do things.
its fair enough telling someone the basics, how to load a synth patch etc, but as far as telling them basic drum patterns and how to make X sound, that is what is killing music. if you can't be bothered to experiment or do any research other than posting on internet forums, you shouldn't be making music in my opinion.
manuals are for telling you how to use something, not people on internet forums or youtube videos.
if you don't know how to use your software, why haven't you RTFM?
if you've RTFM, where's your music?
this is all my opinion and i can't be bothered to argue about it. i'm sure some people agree with me.
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:51 am
by auan
£10 Bag wrote:this is all my opinion and i can't be bothered to argue about it. i'm sure some people agree with me.
I agree with you up to a point. I started off with learning Ableton from a tutorial DVD. I learnt to paint in Photoshop from a tutorial video. They have their uses, and are much more accessible than manuals, most of the time. But as for videoas that get really specific like "this is how you make a wobble," fuk dat.
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:58 am
by tenbucc2
i would assume most people wouldn't really waste their time with remedial tutorials. but some people might be inclined to make a nice video explaining sidechaining techniques in *place software name here* or setting up rewire hosts/slave relationships and nameless other bullshit outside of what the manual tells you. Sheeeeiiit maybe someone should make a fuckin video to show some of you bastards how to download the torrent for the manual of the software they're using the cracked version of.
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:09 am
by slothrop
Auan wrote:£10 Bag wrote:this is all my opinion and i can't be bothered to argue about it. i'm sure some people agree with me.
I agree with you up to a point. I started off with learning Ableton from a tutorial DVD. I learnt to paint in Photoshop from a tutorial video. They have their uses, and are much more accessible than manuals, most of the time. But as for videoas that get really specific like "this is how you make a wobble," fuk dat.
I've got no time at all for people who want one how-to video to show them how to synthesize a bass sound, then another to tell them how to write a bassline, then another to tell them how to write drums, then another to tell them howw to structure the track and so on. Like that bloody 4x4 thread 'how do I make a 4x4 style bass?' 'Use a square wave with a longish attack on the filter env.' 'What settings should I use? What should the cutoff be? How long should the attack be?'
But being told exactly how to do one thing can help you to figure out roughly how to do another. It's like learning how a synth works by taking a preset and deconstructing it - if I try to figure out how an FM synth piano patch works, I'm not just trying to figure out how to recreate that patch, I'm trying to figure out why that patch works how it does and learn more about the synth. And presumably in learning to make a wobble people are going to figure out what cutoff is and what an LFO does, so then they might go and do something else instead.
Also, some things are fairly bread and butter and there's no point everyone reinventing the wheel. Some people might go away and come up with a better new thing to do, but they'd probably do that anyway. Other people are going to take that one bread and butter technique and then go and do something different around it or with it.
Edit: agree with £10 Bag that more people should RTFM and/or go away and experiment, though. I just see a few tuts as part of a balanced diet for learning about production...
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:09 am
by thesynthesist
Here's one to start with, you dickheads!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZYDmw2pYOk
I made this video purely for web hits. And its working. But I've also made one that is about the theory of behind the synthesis.
People want to see how that shit it done, not because its how they will do it henceforth, but because its a jump-off for different, related sounds. Don't knock people for wanting to learn, knock people who stop at 3 videos, and think they're gonna take the world by storm with their one wobble track.
But seriously, I really did make it for the web hits...
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:20 am
by r
ill prolly make some footage bout grooves/drum layerin
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:43 am
by shonky
£10 Bag wrote:
i still think its not a good idea telling people how to do things.
its fair enough telling someone the basics, how to load a synth patch etc, but as far as telling them basic drum patterns and how to make X sound, that is what is killing music. if you can't be bothered to experiment or do any research other than posting on internet forums, you shouldn't be making music in my opinion.
Ain't that the truth. Just makes for the musical equivalent of painting by numbers
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:12 am
by thesynthesist
Shonky wrote:Just makes for the musical equivalent of painting by numbers
Sadly, so many professional composers do this... You find a formula, and you stick with it. Shit, entire genres are pigeoned into that kind of formula.
too bad, eh?
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:14 am
by FSTZ
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:58 pm
by hugh
£10 Bag wrote:please don't.
tell someone how to make a tune and they will make a tune like you told them.
who gives a shit? it's not like their first time "copied" track is going to be that good, and if it is that good then it deserved play and recognition. try to have a little more faith in people and their ability to be creative.
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:10 pm
by digital983
Slothrop wrote:But being told exactly how to do one thing can help you to figure out roughly how to do another.
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:55 pm
by thesynthesist
The guys right about one thing...
You gotta read ya books!!!
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:09 pm
by FSTZ
mRsHo'Nuff wrote:reading is funda-goddamn-mental
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:32 pm
by red shrapnel
seems like negative criticism is more non helpful than asking for contributions of "how to..." production is pretty involved also for one I think, to just say go explore is like throwing some people into a maze of confusion, I'm only a year and a half into it and I still feel pretty lost at times despite all I've learned on "my own" explorations and research, in the end you have to just realize that when people ask for tutorials they only want a guidance system, who the hell gets into dubstep for one just to copy someone else? I thought thats what mainstream genres do?
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:08 am
by decklyn
