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Hi, can anyone give me any tips on how to give bass that far-away, muffled, swallowed kind of sound burial uses? Is it to do with reverb and lp filters? I've tried them and they just make it inaudible or kind of slurred and vague, where as burial keeps a sort of clarity. I'm using reason 3 by the way.
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low pass filter

find/make good hoovers

R wrote:find/make good hoovers

dyson?

I've struggled with trying to copy/emulate/steal his bass sounds as well. Best I can come up with is to sample a hoover, reverb it, layer it with original dry hoover and low-pass them both. It's ok but it still doesn't have that clarity. Like on Catchphrase, it's good, but it's not the one.

then try to mix more extreme.. extreme big ass lowcuts on other samples etc. so the bass gets more space

pretty sure he's sampling and not actually creating his bass from scratch. listen to some old certian dnb and you'll see. reverbs,filters,eq etc. i could be wrong.

although every other thread says something along the lines of;

'but why do you want to copy his sound? try and come up with something original'

i have to agree. these threads are getting out of hand. you should be spending more time making music than asking how to. obviously some things are worth asking for but this is just ridiculous. as cliched as it is you should strive to create something original and at least attempt to try something innovative instead of aiming just to replicate someone else's supposed 'sound'...

yeah, im a tnuc.

Bollocks to those answers. I didn't learn to play guitar by picking up a strat and playing whatever came into my head until it sounded good. I ripped off Hendrix, Dimebag and the Radiohead guy for years. You don't learn to cook by throwing whatever's in the cupboard into a frying pan and seeing what happens, or learn to drive by jumping in a car and tearing down the motorway.

Auan wrote:Bollocks to those answers. I didn't learn to play guitar by picking up a strat and playing whatever came into my head until it sounded good. I ripped off Hendrix, Dimebag and the Radiohead guy for years. You don't learn to cook by throwing whatever's in the cupboard into a frying pan and seeing what happens, or learn to drive by jumping in a car and tearing down the motorway.

legendary quote, thanks mate

synthesis is a little different than music theory, which is essentially what you are talking about. everything in synthesis happens for a reason and if you learn how to control those "reasons" than you can make the sounds you want to hear

respect what you are trying to say but its almost apples to oranges

I've read an interview with Burial somewhere on the net where he was saying that all he was trying to do is mimic El-B's sound and that dark old skool garage vibe and ended up sounding different because, well, he's not El-B...

take a reese style bass sound, filter it way fucking down, add a bit of portamento, and viola!

abstractsound wrote:guitar playing is a little different than sound synthesis, which is essentially what you are talking about. everything in guitar playing happens for a reason and if you learn how to control those "reasons" than you can make the sounds you want to hear

respect what you are trying to say but its almost apples to oranges

it all depends how you look at it

if you look at it through your (abstractsounds) view thats how you will come to it
i enjoy trying to emulate others music and it never ends up sounding the same

whys the quote say guitar playing when i said synthesis...

i should hope it never ends up sounding the same. people definitely come at this shit from all angles though. for me, i hear the sounds im trying to make in my head already.. sure they are influenced by the music i listen to but its not me digging on artist X's track and then trying to get the same thing going on. i guess id rather sit down and fuck with the knobs and parameters and all that jazz on my own until i get what i want to hear and know what each one does instead of having someone do it for me

(i was attempting to point out that the quote makes just as much sense if you reverse it)

R wrote:

Auan wrote:Bollocks to those answers. I didn't learn to play guitar by picking up a strat and playing whatever came into my head until it sounded good. I ripped off Hendrix, Dimebag and the Radiohead guy for years. You don't learn to cook by throwing whatever's in the cupboard into a frying pan and seeing what happens, or learn to drive by jumping in a car and tearing down the motorway.

legendary quote, thanks mate

sig material i believe

lilt wrote:(i was attempting to point out that the quote makes just as much sense if you reverse it)

i'm down for tryin to imitate sounds specially when ur a noob like me...cuz u end up messin around with the tools in a program and u gain a better understanding of those tools which in turn will help you create your own sound...burial's bass is sick...i would think that he definitely eq'd the shit out of the bass to get the clarity that he does get...

Auan wrote:Bollocks to those answers. I didn't learn to play guitar by picking up a strat and playing whatever came into my head until it sounded good. I ripped off Hendrix, Dimebag and the Radiohead guy for years. You don't learn to cook by throwing whatever's in the cupboard into a frying pan and seeing what happens, or learn to drive by jumping in a car and tearing down the motorway.

well put.

i guess i didnt articulate my point well enough because i dont see how the two could have been interchanged. what i meant is in synthesis you are building a sound. you start with something boring and inorganic and the modulate it until it has character and becomes what you are looking for. few people approach guitar in this regard. to get to the point of wanting to get new sound out of the guitar you probably already have to know some music theory and how to play a guitar, but in synthesis you really dont need any music theory background and you dont need to know how to play the piano to be able to create sounds you want to hear. you have to understand what all the different modulations and filters are doing so you can make them do what you want them too. its kind of like the guitar sound off the amp is your original oscillator. if you want to start running your signal through filters and effect pedals then you are talking more along the lines of synthesis.


that may not make any sense to some people but thats how i look at the situation and why i think it might do some more good if they just dig into it themselves and see what happens