The security at Herbal (Break The Habit) last night?

citizen · Post by **citizen** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:55 pm

Is it just me or were they excessively slow with getting people in (I missed Quest!), AND excessively heavy handed?

The big bloke on the door ran his fingers ALL through my wallet, spent seriously 2 whole minutes going through every compartment trying to find something in there.

(fuckers fat fingers were too short though!)

Any my girl said they were a bit over the top with there 'pat-down' of her.

Is this standard in London? I've been here 4 months, and have never encountered that kind of BS at any dubstep or other event?

dubluke · Post by **dubluke** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:04 pm

herbal are getting notorious for their tight security, council are right up their arse cos there were a lot of drugs and underagers centred around herbal for a while, security is now super tight to make them look good to the council

but yes this leads to very slow entry and queuing, my advice would be to turn up early for nights there, personally i don't like it as a club, they have some good nights, but cutting down on the number of subs for the sake of putting some little stool chairs in is stupid

dubluke · Post by **dubluke** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:13 pm

ps. not exactly standard for london but not unusual, to be fair like, whilst i wanna keep my drugs on me, it is reassuring to know that they are doing a proper search, and that anyone trying to bring in a weapon wouldn't be able to, nuff beef in clubs and knives etc. being allowed in cos of crap search doesn't help, but would be good if they could do it quicker, the man even went through my rolling baccy to check i didn't have weed in there, its clear that i'm gonna put that straight into my shoe innit[/b]

badga tek · Post by **badga tek** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:31 pm

dubluke wrote: its clear that i'm gonna put that straight into my shoe innit

Seen security make people take their shoes off at The End to check for drugs. Now thats militant. Clearly though there are still ways of sneaking your stuff in.

badger · Post by **badger** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:34 pm

Badga Tek wrote:Seen security make people take their shoes off at The End to check for drugs. Now thats militant. Clearly though there are still ways of sneaking your stuff in.

that's also illegal. bouncer's aren't allowed to check in shoes. even police have to take you to a police station and do a proper search. obviously if you don't let them check your shoes you aren't going to get in though...

citizen · Post by **citizen** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:39 pm

^^^

Is that for real? So the whole wallet thing should not be going down?

badger · Post by **badger** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:39 pm

Citizen wrote:^^^

Is that for real? So the whole wallet thing should not be going down?

they can still check in wallets and anywhere else on your person. just not in shoes

delendi · Post by **delendi** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:51 pm

why not in shoes?

i've never had trouble with herbal security... they were always pretty thorough i guess, but i've never had to wait long to get in and i haven't been molested lol. not been in a few months tho.

roko · Post by **roko** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:52 pm

fuck herbal and especially fuck the bouncers and their policies...

no respect.

headed straight after finishing off BOMB straight to herbal in a hurry, was on the guestlist, its like 12.45... theres a long queue outside (as its the queue for both parties, upstairs and downstairs), the stnuc at the door tell us everyone, including guest list people gotta queue in the same one to get in... was pissed, wanted to come support the antisocial family and was carrying a backbag that weighs like 10 kilos.. told the bouncers to go fuck themselves and headed straight home. didnt feel like queueing til 1.15 to catch like under last hour of the night...

totally pissed, didnt get to come in see D1 play and say hi to antisocial.

so ye, fuck herbal and fuck the peeps at the door & how they handle the whole thing.

big up antisocial still, shame couldnt get in to see the vibes!!

delendi · Post by **delendi** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:57 pm

yeh actually... they've never been too bothered about guestlist.

badger · Post by **badger** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:59 pm

Delendi wrote:why not in shoes?

possibly not the best source of information seeing as its the "K-Zone" lol, but anyway

http://www.kevinboone.com/stopsearch.html

If you are searched in public the police do not have a right to insist that you remove any clothing other than an outer coat, jacket, or gloves [s2(9) PACE], or headgear that is believed to conceal your identity [s60 CJPOA]. Nor is there a general right to search you more than superficially (e.g., pockets, shoes). This is true whether the search is for proceeds of crime, bomb-making materials, or anything else. However, if a search is otherwise lawful, you may be required to remove any of your clothing out of public view (e.g., in a police station). Code A states that a thorough search must only be carried out by a constable of the same sex.

boomnoise · Post by **boomnoise** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:04 pm

we had a nightmare with them at the dubstepforum awards

delendi · Post by **delendi** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:09 pm

herbal's a shit club anyway. system is rubbish, layout is rubbish... meaning vibe is rubbish. avoid putting dubstep there!

dubloke · Post by **dubloke** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:59 am

Is the dubpolice night on in there this week?

dubluke · Post by **dubluke** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:02 pm

Delendi wrote:system is rubbish

damn right, they should not have cut down on the number of subs for the sake of putting in some un-needed stools, and the treble is painfully loud, was the herbal system and the pain it caused that made me get plugs innart

dubluke · Post by **dubluke** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:03 pm

Dubloke wrote:Is the dubpolice night on in there this week?

yes

Whistla · Post by **Whistla** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:22 pm

badger wrote:
Delendi wrote:why not in shoes?
possibly not the best source of information seeing as its the "K-Zone" lol, but anyway

http://www.kevinboone.com/stopsearch.html

If you are searched in public the police do not have a right to insist that you remove any clothing other than an outer coat, jacket, or gloves [s2(9) PACE], or headgear that is believed to conceal your identity [s60 CJPOA]. Nor is there a general right to search you more than superficially (e.g., pockets, shoes). This is true whether the search is for proceeds of crime, bomb-making materials, or anything else. However, if a search is otherwise lawful, you may be required to remove any of your clothing out of public view (e.g., in a police station). Code A states that a thorough search must only be carried out by a constable of the same sex.

i wud defo like to know the full situation with regard to this whole "legalities of searching"
i assume airports have there own set of by-laws as they have made me take my shoes off nuff times.
is there any links to govt sites with regard to searching?

dubluke · Post by **dubluke** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:37 pm

DJ Whistla wrote:
badger wrote:
Delendi wrote:why not in shoes?
possibly not the best source of information seeing as its the "K-Zone" lol, but anyway

http://www.kevinboone.com/stopsearch.html

If you are searched in public the police do not have a right to insist that you remove any clothing other than an outer coat, jacket, or gloves [s2(9) PACE], or headgear that is believed to conceal your identity [s60 CJPOA]. Nor is there a general right to search you more than superficially (e.g., pockets, shoes). This is true whether the search is for proceeds of crime, bomb-making materials, or anything else. However, if a search is otherwise lawful, you may be required to remove any of your clothing out of public view (e.g., in a police station). Code A states that a thorough search must only be carried out by a constable of the same sex.
i wud defo like to know the full situation with regard to this whole "legalities of searching"
i assume airports have there own set of by-laws as they have made me take my shoes off nuff times.
is there any links to govt sites with regard to searching?

airports do have by-laws and are allowed to make you take off your shoes cos of the whole shoe bomber thing, i'd recommend www.direct.gov.uk - normally clarifies this kinda thing and useful for info on car licensing and council tax etc. found it quite handy myself in the past

dubluke · Post by **dubluke** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:37 pm

ultimately they though all have ROAR (right of admission reserved) so if you refuse to let them search a certain place regardless of its legality then can just then refuse you entry, its up to you to weigh up your right to privacy against your wish to get into the club

Littlefoot · Post by **Littlefoot** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:38 pm

Badga Tek wrote:
dubluke wrote: its clear that i'm gonna put that straight into my shoe innit
Seen security make people take their shoes off at The End to check for drugs. Now thats militant. Clearly though there are still ways of sneaking your stuff in.

arsecrack.

The security at Herbal (Break The Habit) last night?

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