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Turntables

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 9:57 am
by baddie
I'm buying my first turntables - getting sick of reading through promotional crap, what kind of things do I actually need to consider when choosing what to buy? How much of a difference does price make? I want to by something to just use around home and practice mixing at first but I dont want to have to upgrade too quickly when my situation changes... lost.

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:01 am
by dusty
Don't get belt driven, and get Technics if you can afford it, then you won't ever have to upgrade.

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:06 am
by declipse
agreed^^^
i just bought my first pair short while ago, used Technics. a bit scuffed up but work great and will probably continue to.

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:27 am
by jackquinox
As technics are the industry standard, its pretty much a great reason to by them when you can. If however your just after a set of turntables to use at home then i wouldnt recommend spending so much money on a set of turntables that havent changed in 30 years and merely rely on there name for sales.

Personally speaking if i was buying turntables for the first time and had a few hundred to spare i would deffinelty buy one of the higher end stanton turntables like the str8150's or t120 they are solid as a rock and have the strongest motors in the world and there £200 less than a pair of technics.

http://www.decks.co.uk/products/decks/stanton/t120

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:29 am
by n-type
technics mate

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:30 am
by baddie
yeah I was just having a look at some of those stanton ones... sound nice. What is the actual difference in the performance in technics?... what makes them so great?

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:36 am
by jera
technics! thats all u need.

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:37 am
by batfink
Get technics, then once you're a bling Dubstep don you can add two of these...

http://www.tonearm.co.uk/silver-tonearm.htm

600 quid a pop. YUM. :o :o

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:39 am
by docdoom
I was in exactly yr position a few months ago. Sick of reading through stuff, totally overwhelmed by choice.

Basically Technics 1210s and 1212s are the bomb but pretty expensive. BUt then if you (or indeed i) are loving it and getting good in two years we can always upgrade to them...

So i got second hand some Numark Pro tt2s which have been good so far.

I would recommend spending x amount on something decent 2nd hand than x on something shit new. Definately need direct drive. I would find some second hand stuff for sale, research the models on the internet then check out the condition and give it a listen in person. Good decks are much more important than a really good mixer.

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:45 am
by orson
Batfink wrote:Get technics, then once you're a bling Dubstep don you can add two of these...

http://www.tonearm.co.uk/silver-tonearm.htm

600 quid a pop. YUM. :o :o
is that the tonarm they had in plastic people ?? i feel like i remeber they had on deck with a straight tonearm ?!!

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:48 am
by batfink
orson wrote:
Batfink wrote:Get technics, then once you're a bling Dubstep don you can add two of these...

http://www.tonearm.co.uk/silver-tonearm.htm

600 quid a pop. YUM. :o :o
is that the tonarm they had in plastic people ?? i feel like i remeber they had on deck with a straight tonearm ?!!
Well maybe. They probably had the OL1 which is the cheaper 125 quid model. :D

I've heard that with these arm upgrades the Technics can compete with Hifi turntables for sound quality. And thanks to the straight arms they track the records better with much less weight on the needle to save shredding your precious vinyl.

Can you tell i want one? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:51 am
by baddie
Batfink wrote:Get technics, then once you're a bling Dubstep don you can add two of these...

http://www.tonearm.co.uk/silver-tonearm.htm

600 quid a pop. YUM. :o :o
nah man, wheres the gold ones at? :roll:

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:54 am
by batfink
Fuck gold, how about Formula 1 Race car technology. A snip at £4500.

http://www.tonearm.co.uk/enterprise-tonearm.htm

:o :cry:

I want two.

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 11:02 am
by orson
Batfink wrote:Fuck gold, how about Formula 1 Race car technology. A snip at £4500.

http://www.tonearm.co.uk/enterprise-tonearm.htm

:o :cry:

I want two.
:lol:

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 2:48 pm
by hate recordings
technics

technics

technics

technics

i made the WORST mistake of my life when i started dj'ing many many years ago. i bought a paid of stantons. they were direct drive, str8-80's. i thought they were really tight...

till i tried a pair of technics. changed my life. it'll change yours, too. do not waste your money on anything less.

basically, anything but technics lacks torque.

for example, you push down on a record while the platter is spinning and the record stops on a dime. all turntables do it. on stanton, gemini, numark, whatever, they all do the same thing. when you let go of the record, the record doesnt start spinning immediately again. it goes from very slow to regular speed and takes about a second or so to do it. this makes it EXTREMELY tough to beatmatch records.

CAN I GET AN AMEN?

with technics, you NEVER have to worry about this. the motor that powers the plate is so powerful, it just cant be matched. you press down on a record, stop it, let go of the record and it goes back to regular speed immediately. it might not sound like an important thing, but i cannot stress how important this is. it is the motor that is inside the techs that makes it the only choice as far as owning a turntable is concerned.

turntablists (the ones who juggle records and scratch professionally) will tell you, regardless of who they are sponsored by, that technics is the only thing they use. still, it doesnt matter if youre not juggling or scratching. if you're just fucking queing and beatmatching, you need it like a pack of connies with a prostitute. nessecary.


if you can afford a fucked up shitty pair of techs over a brand new pair of anything else, get the shitty techs. trust me on this. you'll never regret it.

don't be an idiot like i was and buy anything but techs. you'll be out $700 and will be kicking yourself for a long time when you take a $400 loss trying to sell them pieces of shit so you can buy techs.

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 2:51 pm
by mrjiggyfly
Fuck Technics,,,Get ahold of these bad boys and your set:






















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Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 4:07 pm
by submerge
just save and buy technics, nowt else is anywhere near (even them vestax things people seem to like, plastic shite!!!)

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 4:25 pm
by unlikely
up til recently I would have agreed on the technics front.. their installed in any club you're going to play in so you might as well get to know them

however i have recently discovered the full potential of my pdx 2000s, better pitch, higher torque wider pich control, and unlike any other genre of music having instant start up and reverse is actually quite crazy with dubstep and grime and opens a whole new book o mixing. They don't sit into a mix and stay there quite like technics but we all need practice right?

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 4:38 pm
by deepsix
if you have a chance, try out the numark TTX-1s. Amazing tables, IMO.

I was a technics user standard for 6 or 7 years. Not anymore.

Now, when I use technics, they feel almost sloppy to me as the TTXs are so damn powerful torque-wise. There are actually a bunch of tables on the market now that have higher torque that 1200s.

But yeah, industry standard (i.e. you can walk into 99.99% of the clubs in the world and feel comfortable that you'll know how to use their 1200s) and robustness (I had a pair of techs that I had to scrape pizza OUT OF that I bought for $300 from a road house diner that were from the late 80s. They are STILL going strong and working perfectly).

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 4:49 pm
by glacial
I am not a great specialist in turntables. But I have tried playing on Vestax PDX (as far as I remember 2000) Not as bad as that. The torque was good. Anyway as far as I know Vestax is more for scratching. Am I missing something?