Any Papen Predator/ Ableton Live users? I NEED HELP.

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filthydubz91
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Any Papen Predator/ Ableton Live users? I NEED HELP.

Post by filthydubz91 » Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:43 pm

I can't find the envelope to modulate my "Free LFO 1 Speed".
I have no idea why.

Any ideas?
cheers in advance (i hope!)

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Post by jade_monkey » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:33 am

Well, afaik this is because Ableton can only assign 128 parameters for automation. Actually, when I think about it, its because MIDI itself has only 128 channels and the Predator designers decided to have much more knobs and parameters.
You can work around it a little bit, if you assign "Envelope 1 Destination" to "LFO1 Speed" and automate that (its the last parameter of Predator in the drop down menu). The only problem would be that you would only have a range of -25% to +400%. Turn the Attack of Envelope 1 down and the Decay up, too.
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Post by filthydubz91 » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:38 am

cheers, I shall give that a go!


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I can't work out how to assign anything to Free Envelope 1, let alone the seemingly non existent LFO1 Speed.

I am such a n00b haha
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Post by jade_monkey » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:52 am

Maybe there would be a way to assign the knob via MIDI Learn to a controller, but i'm to lazy to switch on the BCR to test that.

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Post by filthydubz91 » Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:09 am

if i had a midi controller, i would do that, cos i know how to assign it.
however.
i don't, so I was relying on an envelope.

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Post by jade_monkey » Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:18 am

Well, just click in Predator on the red text besides "Envelope 1 Destination" and choose "LFO1 Speed" from the dropdown menu.

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Post by filthydubz91 » Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:27 am

you absolute genius!

it's easy when you know :P

thanks a lot!

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Post by jade_monkey » Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:23 pm

You're welcome. Just send me the dubplate! :)

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Post by filthydubz91 » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:56 pm

cool, will do.
if it comes together ^.^

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