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Easily my favourite producers just now, really digging the whole techno/2-step vibes!
Downloaded EPs from each of them at the weekend, that along with the 2562 mix on electronic explorations, and the new TRG tune I just heard on the Mary Anne Hobbs show, exciting times indeed!

couldn't agree more. these boys win hands down atm

reso wrote:couldn't agree more. these boys win hands down atm

You can add yourself to that list sir.

Also, Ramadanman. Loving what I've heard from him.

Exciting times ahead methinks...

Also Scuba! Big ups

xal54x wrote:Easily my favourite producers just now, really digging the whole techno/2-step vibes!
Downloaded EPs from each of them at the weekend, that along with the 2562 mix on electronic explorations, and the new TRG tune I just heard on the Mary Anne Hobbs show, exciting times indeed!

where did you get the trg ep on digital release? i need this... 'feel for you' is

These boys are definetly making the most interesting music to my ears

you know!!

is everyone hating the half step now?!?!?!?!

I actually don't really like the faster shizzle its even weirder to dance to, don't realaly like the beats and just yeah...

whats wrong with half time shit..

Edd wrote: whats wrong with half time shit..

I think, and I might be wrong in this, that that kind of opinion comes from people mainly living in areas where there is loads of dubstep all the time. I dont really go to that many nights so I still appreciate all the different sounds personally.

how are TRG/2562/Martyn 'faster'?

Edd wrote:is everyone hating the half step now?!?!?!?!

I actually don't really like the faster shizzle its even weirder to dance to, don't realaly like the beats and just yeah...

whats wrong with half time shit..

Honestly I think there were maybe 5 good half step tunes made. And that was by Skream, Loefah, Pinch and Random Trio.

Massive fan of those lads (trg/martyn/2562) look forward to the new stuff from them!

pete bubonic wrote:

Edd wrote:is everyone hating the half step now?!?!?!?!

I actually don't really like the faster shizzle its even weirder to dance to, don't realaly like the beats and just yeah...

whats wrong with half time shit..

Honestly I think there were maybe 5 good half step tunes made. And that was by Skream, Loefah, Pinch and Random Trio.

Massive fan of those lads (trg/martyn/2562) look forward to the new stuff from them!

lol pete i can't tell whether you're really being serious - so the digital mystikz didn't make any good stuff then?

check out Darkstar mate

spooKs wrote:

pete bubonic wrote:

Edd wrote:is everyone hating the half step now?!?!?!?!

I actually don't really like the faster shizzle its even weirder to dance to, don't realaly like the beats and just yeah...

whats wrong with half time shit..

Honestly I think there were maybe 5 good half step tunes made. And that was by Skream, Loefah, Pinch and Random Trio.

Massive fan of those lads (trg/martyn/2562) look forward to the new stuff from them!

lol pete i can't tell whether you're really being serious - so the digital mystikz didn't make any good stuff then?

Kinda serious kinda not, I released a half stepper

I'm struggling to think of any true half steppers mystikz did? Every tune I think of has wonky beats and shuffly shit going on in them? I'm sure one's escaping my memory, so if they made a good one, remind me!

pete bubonic wrote: I'm struggling to think of any true half steppers mystikz did? Every tune I think of has wonky beats and shuffly shit going on in them? I'm sure one's escaping my memory, so if they made a good one, remind me!

Hang on, what do you actually mean by halfstep? Anything with the snare on 3 rather than 2 and 4, or something specific and rigid with halfspeed hihats as well?

pete bubonic wrote:

spooKs wrote:

pete bubonic wrote:

Edd wrote:is everyone hating the half step now?!?!?!?!

I actually don't really like the faster shizzle its even weirder to dance to, don't realaly like the beats and just yeah...

whats wrong with half time shit..

Honestly I think there were maybe 5 good half step tunes made. And that was by Skream, Loefah, Pinch and Random Trio.

Massive fan of those lads (trg/martyn/2562) look forward to the new stuff from them!

lol pete i can't tell whether you're really being serious - so the digital mystikz didn't make any good stuff then?

Kinda serious kinda not, I released a half stepper

I'm struggling to think of any true half steppers mystikz did? Every tune I think of has wonky beats and shuffly shit going on in them? I'm sure one's escaping my memory, so if they made a good one, remind me!

thought coki was pretty much one of the people who defined halfstep, we obv have slightly different definitions of it!
i was thinking stuff like shattered, tortured, all of a sudden, haunted, the end, etc etc etc

i guess u mean stuff that could have been made at say 70 bpm ! that would take some more thought, and close listening

no one actually knows what half step is so it's not really worth chatting about innit. if it was just about snares then you could argue that a lot of 2562/martyn/trg is actually half time as they often just have one accented snare per bar, despite the busy percussion. if it's about feel or groove.. well that's a subjective thing. some people move to loefah at half speed, some people bounce along at 140 headnods per minute, doesn't make either the correct way of doing it.

it might've been a useful distinction to make at some point or other but either way we're past that point now I think, time to start focusing on something else.

I guess my definition of half step is perhaps not the widely accepted. But yeah the general consensus would be that the bpm sound very like 70 bpm with sparse snare placement.

I know it's ultra subjective but for like Shattered I still bob my head at 140, whereas for Goat Stare, well that the half step tune for me.

Actually maybe haunted is the half step tune for me. lol. and DMZ to the list then.

UFO over easy wrote:no one actually knows what half step is so it's not really worth chatting about innit. if it was just about snares then you could argue that a lot of 2562/martyn/trg is actually half time as they have one accented snare per bar, despite the busy percussion. if it's about feel or groove.. well that's a subjective thing. some people move to loefah at half speed, some people bounce along at 140 headnods per minute, doesn't make either the correct way of doing it.

it might've been a useful distinction to make at some point or other but either way we're past that point now I think, time to start focusing on something else.

what he said.

to use one of your examples pete, I definitely move to goat stare at 140, especially when the bass goes into those triplet punches after the breakdown what a tune