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eye opening experience...
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:47 pm
by phobic
dunno if its been posted about on here before or not, dunno if everything on this should be taken as the truth...but this award winning movie has changed the way I look at things and maybe given me some answers that I have been looking for....
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
give it a watch..... allow the first 5 - 10 minutes...... see what u think.
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:51 pm
by kins83
If you don't believe everything on there you are brain washed, blinkered pissant.
How did I do Parson?
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:06 pm
by pk
it was alright but nothing exactly earth-shattering. it takes a few massive leaps of imagination as well
i found the 3 punch combo of Did Jesus Die?, The Power of Nightmares and The Trap : Whatever Happened to Our Dreams of Freedom? to be a much more interesting watch
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:08 pm
by psyolopher
Some of this material is weak though, still interesting to watch!
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:15 pm
by pk
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:16 pm
by pk
i harp on about it to anyone who'll listen but Did Jesus Die is sick
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:23 pm
by phobic
standard...I'll check those out 2moro after work...its a bit late here in Tokyo to trawl thru them now! thanks for the links
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:36 pm
by boy_arena
Yea it was posted a while back, very deep.
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:58 pm
by parson
zeitgeist is like a kindergarten lesson for people who are really really out of touch.
it tries to cover way too much information and offers a lil more speculation than i'm comfortable with. it does touch on important points though about the similarity between religions, the federal reserve, and some key points about how 9-11 was clearly an inside job. its hard to care to communicate with people who still believe it was terrorists.
right now i'm checkin out the Did Jesus Die stuff. its hard to take stuff about the new testament seriously though. there's so many holes in their story. been edited way too many times. i can't put much weight into those stories. i'm not even sure if st paul existed and this video is just taking for granted that he was real
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:23 pm
by fuagofire
i thought it was on the mark - apart from the 9/11 thing - more likely the barn door was left open rather than a direct invovement -
but i do like to try and ruin peoples fun

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:26 pm
by pk
Parson wrote:right now i'm checkin out the Did Jesus Die stuff. its hard to take stuff about the new testament seriously though. there's so many holes in their story. been edited way too many times. i can't put much weight into those stories. i'm not even sure if st paul existed and this video is just taking for granted that he was real
yeah it does take the existence of Jesus & his apostles for granted, which is something that I realise many people don't believe (and something I personally do).
I liked the buddhism stuff in it, though. similar to the horus stuff but with more tangible evidence of it in the fundamentals of the christian faith
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:28 pm
by parson
lol at DARPA just forgetting to check for terrorist attacks on the pentagon for a day
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:31 pm
by parson
pk wrote:Parson wrote:right now i'm checkin out the Did Jesus Die stuff. its hard to take stuff about the new testament seriously though. there's so many holes in their story. been edited way too many times. i can't put much weight into those stories. i'm not even sure if st paul existed and this video is just taking for granted that he was real
yeah it does take the existence of Jesus & his apostles for granted, which is something that I realise many people don't believe (and something I personally do).
I liked the buddhism stuff in it, though. similar to the horus stuff but with more tangible evidence of it in the fundamentals of the christian faith
i'm not finished watching it yet and i could be paying more attention to it but i don't question the existence of jesus so much as i question a lot of the understanding about him. like st paul. he was the guy who was preaching against gnosticism. he didn't like gnosticism because it taught reincarnation.
personally i think jesus was a reincarnation of horus. and thoth and enoch, and all kinds of other dudes who came down and tried to teach some good stuff.
yeah i also think they're alien souls :]
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:33 pm
by pk
Parson wrote:lol at DARPA just forgetting to check for terrorist attacks on the pentagon for a day
that's a pretty big assumption though isn't it? that they're able to foresee and prevent any given terrorist attack
i don't see it as that mad a suggestion that the pentagon/wtc attacks were a monumental demonstration of the fallibility of military intelligence
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:34 pm
by parson
all a plane has to do is leave its course for 3 minutes and it will get shot down by jetfighters
don't be so naive
this was even predicted by the X-FILES earlier that year
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIZ205ccX8M
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:36 pm
by parson
i suppose these planes were equpped with thermite that cut through the building foundations like a knife through butter too
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:37 pm
by pk
Parson wrote:personally i think jesus was a reincarnation of horus. and thoth and enoch, and all kinds of other dudes who came down and tried to teach some good stuff.
yeah i also think they're alien souls :]
yeah I wouldn't completely dismiss the idea that he's a hypothetical amalgamation of various different mythological figures, but the starting point of that almalgamation is what troubles me about that theory. like how & why would it start? i find it much more likely that he was a decent bloke who actually existed, who the tibetans believed to be the dalai lama & whose mythological status was built up inordinately by his power-hungry followers
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:40 pm
by pk
Parson wrote:all a plane has to do is leave its course for 3 minutes and it will get shot down by jetfighters
don't be so naive
surely that's a post-wtc/pentagon rule, though?
i'd have thought it was naive to believe that the military is completely infallible when it wants to be
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:40 pm
by parson
no thats not recent lol
dude
srsly
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:40 pm
by pk
Parson wrote:i suppose these planes were equpped with thermite that cut through the building foundations like a knife through butter too
pressure & heat
