Dubstepforum.com

Hi,

I'm using Massive on Cubase 4 at the moment and i'm trying to replicate something similar to the basses made by producers mention above. notably 2562 - Morvern and Peverelist - Circling.

Now, I'm not trying to copy or rip-off, just trying to get something in that ballpark would be good.

I've tried all sorts of things with sines and layering etc but it all just sounds sooo fuckin cheap and ghey. Tried stuff like a slow opening LFO a using double basslines running along side each other but still stumped.

a standard sub bass just seems to empty

any ideas or is it just a case of keep practicing?

Would appreciate some help.

Thanks

Process

Process wrote:Hi,

I'm using Massive on Cubase 4 at the moment and i'm trying to replicate something similar to the basses made by producers mention above. notably 2562 - Morvern and Peverelist - Circling.

Now, I'm not trying to copy or rip-off, just trying to get something in that ballpark would be good.

I've tried all sorts of things with sines and layering etc but it all just sounds sooo fuckin cheap and ghey. Tried stuff like a slow opening LFO a using double basslines running along side each other but still stumped.

a standard sub bass just seems to empty

any ideas or is it just a case of keep practicing?

Would appreciate some help.

Thanks

Process

Havent used massive too much yet but theres a sub focus tutorial from computer music here. he gets some mental sounds so im sure itll help you out

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SK1ocGVDibg

There are some basic things to try, if you haven't already...

1) You have 3 Oscs - try detuning them slightly from eachother, and setting different waveforms or wavetable positions

2) Using the wavetable function (the first knob for each osc) and assigning envelopes or LFOs to them

3) Having a sine osc one octave below the main osc, that doesn't get routed through the filter

4) Unfortunately Massive doesn't have a "fat" toggle like the ES2 etc., so lots of filter resonance >>might<< suck the power from your basses - depends on the settings, use your ears...

5) Try fucking around with the "feedback" section

6) Try fucking around with the modulation osc, setting it deeper than the 3 main ones

7) Deconstruct some of massive's bass patches and learn how they get their sounds...

It's really not a hard synth to get sounding good, so I'd suggest practice, practice!

how I would try to do it would be find an 808 with decent sustain/release and add a slight slight distortion to full it out a bit. then eq a boost where ever the harmonic is somewhere between 200-700 that will also make it seem fat. at least thats how id do a big plain subby sub.

thanks guys, i really appreciate the replies, will get on it tomorrow when i can get the speakers turned up a bit more. Have a good play around, with massive

Once again, thanks

push the "perevelist bass" button






sorry bruv, I had to

hee hee

FSTZ wrote:push the "perevelist bass" button






sorry bruv, I had to

hee hee

i cant find it in the manual

Process wrote: i cant find it in the manual

Right under PHATT FOCKIN BASSEZ section mate, you simply can't have missed that!

Johnny Beat wrote:

Process wrote: i cant find it in the manual

Right under PHATT FOCKIN BASSEZ section mate, you simply can't have missed that!

oh yea, just above the DUTTY FOCKIN WOBBLE BASSLINE SHIZZLE

yeh these guys have a really realy subtle yet earth shattering bass sound, I have a feeling it's mostly down to very clever filtering

yes, to start with don't bother with straight sines: get a square wave and LPF it right down for instance. also try with lots of other more complex waveforms

thanks for all your input guys,

Doug, been using how you said, getting some lovely warm sounds now

cheers everyone