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Losing my dubstep production virginity

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:31 am
by .klimaxx
Okay, i've been writing on this forum for a while - but up til now i've never actually produced a dubstep track, as i've been concentrating on more electro/techno stuff..

Finished this track today - let me know what you all think of it!

Be as cruel as you like.. I want harsh criticism :)

thanks


http://www.myspace.com/bwambu

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:33 am
by neka
You'd getter a better response in the dubs subforum ;)

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:38 am
by serox
I am listening on some crappy headphones at work but it sounds good for som1 who is new to it.

What VST you using for the bass? sounds a bit like massive but also parts sound like Albino.

I use Reason so would be very surprised if you made it in Reason :D

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:51 am
by hugh
not bad mate, technically it seems quite sound. My only real criticsm is that the drums never change up so the groove of that track is the same throughout, which for me is the biggest cause of listener boredom (not trying to be harsh i literally cant think of another way to describe it). try building up your drum layers a bit more so there is more swing to the general track to give it more energy.
otherwise i think its pretty good 8)

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:53 am
by hugh
and serox it doesnt matter what synth he's using, i can quite easily get that kind of sound out of reason with some fiddling. try some Fm between sawtooths at different pulse widths in thor. People need to get over the idea that you can only get this kind of sound in certain synths! as long as you have the right knowledge you can make pretty much any noise in any synth!

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:54 am
by daft cunt
Great atmosphere mate, I love it!!
The bassline dropping at ~0:50 seems to come with a bit of unintented distortion. Perhaps some clashing frequencies?
Neat production however.

I'd love a 320 :D

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:00 pm
by serox
Hugh wrote:and serox it doesnt matter what synth he's using, i can quite easily get that kind of sound out of reason with some fiddling. try some Fm between sawtooths at different pulse widths in thor. People need to get over the idea that you can only get this kind of sound in certain synths! as long as you have the right knowledge you can make pretty much any noise in any synth!
I didnt mean it in a bad way I was just being nosy. I am curious as to what people use to make what sound when I hear it :D

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:24 pm
by .klimaxx
cheers guys. well i use massive and fm8 for everything - arranged in FL 8.

i will definitely try changing the drums and that - it's what i'm least experienced at due to the fact that i only play piano and not drums.

@Daft tnuc: i'll upload a 320kbps version to sendspace tonight, and thanks for the heads up on the frequency clash.

cheers, .klimaxx

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:42 pm
by POND LIFE
good work, especially for a first try! the vocal sample works really well. have you got a link for your techno stuff?

only thing id say is the delay on the snare that comes in occasionally sounds a bit basic, maybe add a filter and perhaps another effect onto the delayed part. only a tiny issue though, its a good tune.

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:57 pm
by lilt
since its an EXTREMELY good first production i would like to add my two cents =)

- the stereo-field of the main 'piano' loop is too wide, centering a bit more will prevent the 'empty' sound happening when it drops out... it will create more cohesion (im guessing its a delay/chorus in massive?)
- drop out the ghost (16th) kicks when the bass drops in the first time, bring it back after the small break
- needs some 6/7khz, maybe a ride or splash cymbal? but just VERY lightly

other than those ideas... AWESOME first go!

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:33 pm
by .klimaxx
ah cheers guys that's really useful :)

i'll try remixing it tonight when i get home - i'm going to the BBC proms tonight lol

here's the original 320kbps wav

http://www.sendspace.com/file/9vx8og

Re: Losing my dubstep production virginity

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:01 pm
by p3rt2k8
.klimaxx wrote:Okay, i've been writing on this forum for a while - but up til now i've never actually produced a dubstep track, as i've been concentrating on more electro/techno stuff..

Finished this track today - let me know what you all think of it!

Be as cruel as you like.. I want harsh criticism :)

thanks


http://www.myspace.com/bwambu
pretty sik tune man! keep up the good work mate. anyway wot u use to make it?

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:11 pm
by .klimaxx
lol i'm using FL 8 to arrange it, and using some home-made MASSIVE patches for bass, sub-bass etc. The piano thingy is an FM8 preset that's been tweaked a bit, and it's called Airpad.

The drums were just the ones that come in FL8 under the Dance pack.. I EQd and reverbed them all up..

The samples were from www.dailywav.com, and were from Superman and something else hehe.

Just as a side note - anybody know of any good high hat samples that are suitable for Dubstep? The FL8 ones are pretty dire


cheers

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:29 pm
by legend4ry
Check the production bible, theres some good packs on there.

Anything clean sounding works for me, personally.

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:23 pm
by greenseed
pretty dope first go but ya there is a bit o distortin at 55ish..some crackles or somethin.....otherwise BIGUP

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:39 pm
by futures_untold
Loving the strings...

Reminds me of my youth listening to The Prodigy!!!1

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:17 pm
by .klimaxx
cheers :)

so anyway i've been working on it a little more.. i've posted the new version of the song on myspace.

while the structure is almost exactly the same, i've varied the drums a bit, added a percussive melody and fixed the frequency distortion on the bass drop.

tell me what y'all think :)

cheers

http://www.myspace.com/bwambu

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:14 pm
by breaksbaron
Liking this track, very weighty, moves along nicely...............................

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:26 pm
by .klimaxx
cheers baron :)

anyone got any ideas as to what this might be labelled as in terms of genre?

does it count as dubstep or is it too techno lol

.klimaxx