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Deep Warm Sub Bass in Fruity Loop's 8?

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:26 pm
by bds
Like I say I use Fl.8 and my synth of choice is Massive but I also have NI FM8, Poizone, & Morphine,

I have looked high and low (including this forum and youtube) but I cant come close to the sound I want,

If any of you listen to DnB, You'll probly know what I mean when i say im after a Commix analogue warm deep sub bass.

any help appreciated

ez

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:53 pm
by hxdb
Well, the 3xOSC is a beauty, it's exceedingly easy to program and sounds clean.

Try setting the first osc as a triangle, the last 2 as sines and turn the semitones of each to -24. Then tweak the fine knob on osc 1 to taste...Enjoy!

:D

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:00 pm
by misk

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:11 pm
by black lotus
seriously, 3osc can do some amazing things.
plus it is so much more bad ass to synthesize bass with just 3 oscillators a filter and some fx, like chorus.


but i think you might just need a pure sine bass. one sinewave @ 60hz can produce warm, pure sub. then you can layer the midrange heat over it.

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:20 pm
by legend4ry
HxdB wrote:3xOSC
black lotus wrote:3osc
oh and


3xOSC


Its clean sounding and its simple.

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:23 pm
by Sharmaji
sine.

fm8 with no processing has a wicked plain old sine for sub.

nice 1

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:46 pm
by bds
cheers lads will try that method im only a beginner so any help is much appreciated.

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:35 pm
by thetaco
the warmness in a Commix tune is probably from the Scream 4 unit on tape setting in Reason (which they wrote their album on).

3xOsc will work fine for subs just add a compressor (or limiter) with a high ratio to it and distort it a bit, instant fatness.

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:00 pm
by POND LIFE
saw commix on saturday, my god does their bass feel nice. euphoric.

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:29 am
by serox
thetaco wrote:the warmness in a Commix tune is probably from the Scream 4 unit on tape setting in Reason (which they wrote their album on).

3xOsc will work fine for subs just add a compressor (or limiter) with a high ratio to it and distort it a bit, instant fatness.
Distort a sub? I always thought that was a nono?

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:36 am
by Disco Nutter
Why? It's a sound.

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:34 am
by tempromental
get a copy of v-station then use / tweak the bass6 patch

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:51 pm
by slothrop
Serox wrote:
thetaco wrote:the warmness in a Commix tune is probably from the Scream 4 unit on tape setting in Reason (which they wrote their album on).

3xOsc will work fine for subs just add a compressor (or limiter) with a high ratio to it and distort it a bit, instant fatness.
Distort a sub? I always thought that was a nono?
There's not much point distorting a sub if you've (say) split the bass into sub and upper, or generally if it's got more midrangey stuff exactly covering it.

The reason for this is that pure sub is, pretty much by definition, an undistorted sine wave at a low frequency. If you distort the sub, you're effectively turning down the low frequency component of it and adding in some higher frequency. But if you've already got bare wobbles going on at the same time and the purpose of the sub is just to add, er, sub, then that's going to be counterproductive. Although it might randomly sound alright, I don't think it's a hard and fast rule.

OTOH, if your sub is all you've got, giving it a teensy bit of high range can make it a bit more punchy and noticeable, which is good. I tend to either stick a little bit of distortion on the sub or use not quite pure sub (eg a filtered triangle or a filtered mix of sine and square).

(I've also had some reasonable results for 'solo' sub using a free Hammond emulator called NubiLE with only the first bar pulled out significantly. But YMMV.)

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:32 pm
by fiziks
^^^^^ what he said.

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:13 pm
by cryptic
tempromental wrote:get a copy of v-station then use / tweak the bass6 patch
u KNOW ;p

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:19 pm
by black lotus
CRYPTIC wrote:
tempromental wrote:get a copy of v-station then use / tweak the bass6 patch
u KNOW ;p
yeah but that's no fun :p
try creating that from scratch and see how it really happens..