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EPMD - proto dubstep?
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:04 am
by donruba
I was listening to a fav old record of mine this morning, EPMD's debut album Strictly Business, and it just struck me how much the track I always liked best from the album, "Get Off The Bandwagon" sounds like pure halfstep murdah!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4anAKdiIf8Q
An instrumental of that tune, with the bass turned up a notch and the tempo slowed down a bit maybe, I would just love that.
So yeah, I've been into dubstep since 1988. When did you n00bs get on the bandwagon? Oh, 2006? 2004? Please...
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:19 pm
by spiro
how about schooly D ? BDP ? EPMD! Just Ice . . .
and some of the old electro joints is much of the same vibe . . .
but the original dubstep DON has to be Kool Keith . . .
bass driven spaced out beats from 83-2008 ?!!
anyway a legend . . .
and yes off-course i'v been dropping get of the bandwagon, but i can't claim to have done it since 88 . . .
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:21 pm
by trailofthedead
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:58 pm
by donruba
Yeah, big Kool Keith tune! Although personally I still feel that the EPMD tune is more amazingly dubstep sounding.
Especially considered that EPMD's "Get off the bandwagon" is produced
1988. The Kool Keith tune is produced 2001. It was made after trip hop, after all kinds of experimentation when it comes to fusing hip hop with dance music had already been made.
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:01 pm
by donruba
spiro wrote:how about schooly D ? BDP ? EPMD! Just Ice . . .
and some of the old electro joints is much of the same vibe . . .
Examples? Links? Would love to hear some more old, dubsteppy hiphop
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:11 pm
by trailofthedead
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:14 pm
by spiro
check out the intro on this tape . . .
megablast
and an old tape . . . quite dodgy mixing though . . .
itsademo.mp3
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:21 pm
by jah wobble
donruba wrote: hip hop with dance music
hiphop
was dance music.
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:42 pm
by rev
then what about the electrostuff that preceded it? Kraftwerk, Zapp and so on? and what about all the 80's digital dancehall?
I don't think a slow beat and heavy bass alone, qualifies as 'dubstep'.
but there is no doubt in, that the same production techniques are used again, and again making it clear that producers get inspired by the old stuff they love.
Re: EPMD - proto dubstep?
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:52 pm
by chimpo
donruba wrote:I was listening to a fav old record of mine this morning, EPMD's debut album Strictly Business, and it just struck me how much the track I always liked best from the album, "Get Off The Bandwagon" sounds like pure halfstep murdah!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4anAKdiIf8Q
An instrumental of that tune, with the bass turned up a notch and the tempo slowed down a bit maybe, I would just love that.
So yeah, I've been into dubstep since 1988. When did you n00bs get on the bandwagon? Oh, 2006? 2004? Please...
sick. it does sound bare like dubstep. someone should chop n screw it
EPMD are dutty. i used to be called dj rampage at school cuz of that old track by them and LL. and other shit dj names. lol.
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:01 pm
by skrewface
If you're an old hiphop head then this is probably amongst many other electro influenced tracks the reason to why we love Dubstep so much
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:18 pm
by juliun_c90
ha ha. i haven't heard this tune for a long time.
proto dubstep? well those pretty straight beats, semi-tone variation bassline and especially the title...
yeah there's a message there i think!
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:27 pm
by lwiz
respect to Erick and Parrish making Dollars
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:18 am
by rekordah
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:56 am
by tony k
matty g
compound one
loefah
6blocc
all remind me of hip hop.
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:17 am
by eshscramble
i'm sure everyone knows this already, but for those who don't...
mr oizo - flat beat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kv6Ewqx3PMs
reprezent
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:21 pm
by tacospheros
ive been on a mr oizo kick recently , some durrty beats
analog worms attack -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTF7Kag_o-c
monday massacre -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQZPfhidBaE
M-SEQ (check the breakdown @ 2:10 , so gangster)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-EcasIakX4
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:42 pm
by jah wobble
exactly.
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:03 pm
by tony k
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:06 am
by moujah
absolutely. so what's all the buzz now? dubstep would be around 20 years ago if there was the technology to make it
