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Heres why nothing is gonna change.

Either hes not gonna carry out what hes preaching and hes just a puppet of the powers that be that play their games behind the scenes or one of two things is gonna happen.

Firstly Bush and Cheney passed a law at the beginning of the year which bears a striking resemblance to the legislation used by Hitler to turn Germany into a dictatorship. It says that in an ambiguous, 'state of emergency' Bush can do as he sees fit. He can pass any laws he wants without having to have the agreement of any people on the street or in the senate, including making himself leader for as long as the 'state of national emergency' lasts. So dont be surprised if theres a big explosion before the 20th of january guys.

And if you think that government isnt capable of murdering thousands of its people just take a look back to 9/11. And if you dont know why 9/11 was an incontrevertible act of state sponsored terrorism i suggest you look up a few of lectures on youtube by a guy called jim fetzer. Hes done three important ones. The first is on Kennedy, the second is on 9/11 and the third brings me on to the other possibilty for obamas fate and its on the senator wellstone assassination.

Ill just go into that briefly. Basically the government have taking a liking to killing thorns in their side by blowing their planes out of the sky with hi-tec weaponry at excessively convinient moments. They did it to a guy called mel carnahan just before his senate vote and then a few years later to senator paul wellstone who was given by many the monicre, 'conscience of the senate'.

I know that it sounds ridiculous and i myself was wary of it before i watched fetzers lectures but seriously watch them and you will be convinced too. It seems sadly that anything is possible in this crazy world nowadays. Open your eyes up to evil powerthirsty bastards that lead us.

I cant get the links for them but please search jim fetzer 9/11 senator wellstone assassination on youtube, they are there. Also look at a site called 9/11 scholars for truth.

Peace

The people know.

meh

wots' goin' on in dis fred den guyz???

your solution?

edit - well it made this little old lady happy
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americ ... 712227.stm

Piss off.

you're well monickered Eric.
what Kinsman said.

yeh you really don't know anything about the world until you watch some nutcase on youtube jabber nonesense at you.

pompende wrote:yeh you really don't know anything about the world until you watch some nutcase on youtube jabber nonesense at you.

lol this.

We were all a part of history! Change just happened. The guy is not superman, we will not feel the effects of his policies immediately, or even for a number of years. More importantly we will not feel the effects of Bush or Mccain.

You all need to open your minds up and stop eating all the shit the propagnda machine is feeding you. You didnt even give the lectures a chance did you. Fetzer is not a nutcase and i hope you all enjoy your life of mental enslavery

calmer than you are

ericssoftbrain wrote:Heres why nothing is gonna change.

Either hes not gonna carry out what hes preaching and hes just a puppet of the powers that be that play their games behind the scenes or one of two things is gonna happen.

Firstly Bush and Cheney passed a law at the beginning of the year which bears a striking resemblance to the legislation used by Hitler to turn Germany into a dictatorship. It says that in an ambiguous, 'state of emergency' Bush can do as he sees fit. He can pass any laws he wants without having to have the agreement of any people on the street or in the senate, including making himself leader for as long as the 'state of national emergency' lasts. So dont be surprised if theres a big explosion before the 20th of january guys.

And if you think that government isnt capable of murdering thousands of its people just take a look back to 9/11. And if you dont know why 9/11 was an incontrevertible act of state sponsored terrorism i suggest you look up a few of lectures on youtube by a guy called jim fetzer. Hes done three important ones. The first is on Kennedy, the second is on 9/11 and the third brings me on to the other possibilty for obamas fate and its on the senator wellstone assassination.

Ill just go into that briefly. Basically the government have taking a liking to killing thorns in their side by blowing their planes out of the sky with hi-tec weaponry at excessively convinient moments. They did it to a guy called mel carnahan just before his senate vote and then a few years later to senator paul wellstone who was given by many the monicre, 'conscience of the senate'.

I know that it sounds ridiculous and i myself was wary of it before i watched fetzers lectures but seriously watch them and you will be convinced too. It seems sadly that anything is possible in this crazy world nowadays. Open your eyes up to evil powerthirsty bastards that lead us.

I cant get the links for them but please search jim fetzer 9/11 senator wellstone assassination on youtube, they are there. Also look at a site called 9/11 scholars for truth.

Peace

The people know.

nice sharemless plug jim

I dunno about all the stuff he's on about, didn't bother watching the videos.

But theres something about obama i don't trust, i have a feelings it's a bit too set up, that the perfect mixed race man comes along with the perfect wife and family, not so long after racial equality is becoming more an more excepted.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was chosen by higher powers who knew that at this kinda time, a mixed race model citizen could easily take hold of presidency.

Fuck knows, now i sound bare paranoid, i don't really care tbh.

But i do feel most goverments are corrupt and do bare shit we don't have a clue about

ericssoftbrain wrote:I know that it sounds ridiculous and i myself was wary of it before i watched fetzers lectures but seriously watch them and you will be convinced too. It seems sadly that anything is possible in this crazy world nowadays. Open your eyes up to evil powerthirsty bastards that lead us.

I don't want to seem one sided as I'm very open minded......

BUT

You go on about how the government brainwashes us....
If they can, surely anyone else can too?

If you're really that paranoid enough to beleive this, then you can beleive anyone else can brainwash us to beleive anything?
I'm all for conspiracy theories and everything, but what if the conspiracy theorisers are themselves being brainwashed by the government to aid them in making the public think they're more powerful than they actually are to control people?

Tactics my friend. Tactics.

everyone STFU.....

Hysteria wrote:I dunno about all the stuff he's on about, didn't bother watching the videos.

But theres something about obama i don't trust, i have a feelings it's a bit too set up, that the perfect mixed race man comes along with the perfect wife and family, not so long after racial equality is becoming more an more excepted.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was chosen by higher powers who knew that at this kinda time, a mixed race model citizen could easily take hold of presidency.

Fuck knows, now i sound bare paranoid, i don't really care tbh.

But i do feel most goverments are corrupt and do bare shit we don't have a clue about

There is something we didn't consider. But you also have to consider what else we learned from this election...

Black and Anti Gay marriage = President

Woman and Pro Gay marriage = Hillary, Not President

So gays and women, no.

Black, yes.

Good thing we've come so far, as to give everyone those fabled equal rights.

Jeer wrote: but what if the conspiracy theorisers are themselves being brainwashed by the government to aid them in making the public think they're more powerful than they actually are to control people?

Tactics my friend. Tactics.

If they could brain wash some select few an not the rest of us then i'd say thats pretty powerfull.




lol

-boring wrote:everyone STFU.....

i basically skimmed through this thread, so the only thing i have to say is this:

obama can only do so much (if anything, as a politician beholden to certain moneyed interests).

it was the PEOPLE that made this happen, it is the people who will make ANY change happen. it has ALWAYS been the people who have made change.

i always vote, but i do so with a recognition of that basic fact, and an understanding of the history of social movements.

so how bout instead of everyone telling us how little obama can do, they get out there in the streets, in their communities, and actually do something themselves.

so 'the government' are running everything and blowing senators' planes out of the sky, okay.

yet they can't manage to take care of one nutter on youtube, either by killing him or sorting youtube out?

please.

Haha... I like the random thread by random guy proclaiming political wisdom packed with grammatical errors and misspellings. Trust.