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Hello all.

I essentially mix D n B and want to incorporate some dubbage into my sets but I'm really struggling with the difference in tempos.

I'm using 2 Technics and 1 CDJ at present - although I am looking to get another CDJ.

Any tips (or particular tunes which are useful) for mixing the two genres in and out of eachother.

Cheers.

this sounds obvious and lame - but dropping into remixes - where's my money remix stuff like that. or used the build up to a d'n'b track to drop into a serious dub bassline and vice versa - i often use dubstep track >(soft fade) midnight request line (zinc remix) > d'n'b

halfstep d'n'b is useful too

Shaan wrote:halfstep d'n'b is useful too

I tried messing about with the half step stuff but to actually beat match with them is a bit tricky.

I'm finding myself speeding the dubstep up (which sounds shit) and slowing the d n b down (again shit) to get them in with each other.

the tempos are very different rudeboy, it aint happening

ALEKS ZEN wrote:the tempos are very different rudeboy, it aint happening

I know.

But the thing is I've heard Chase & Status banging dubstep in their sets so it has to be do-able. I just can not suss it out at the minute.

I often play both genres when I play house/after-parties, if you want to try and mix a dubstep tune directly into a d&b tune or vice-versa, then the answer is, simply, you can't - not unless you want to ruin the vibe, by playing one at the other genre's tempo, or finding a mid-range bpm of 160 or something.

If you play a 140bpm dubstep tune at 150bpm, it sounds wank and loses all the bass elements. D&B is usually around 175bpm - so pitching a dubstep tune up that far is not going to result in a good sound experience

Find yourself as many short ambient tracks or vocal snippets, anything like that (artists like The Orb, Boards of Canada and the like have several tunes that last under 90 seconds), and blend them into intros/outros of tracks that don't begin or end with percussive elements.

I'm amazed how few DJ's actually seem to do this as it's always been an obvious solution to me. 5 dubstep tracks then a few seconds of ambience (not enough for people to go and sit down), then start a bit of d&b. This also means all those tunes you have with brilliant long intros get heard, rather than lost in the mix.

cogidubnus wrote:I often play both genres when I play house/after-parties, if you want to try and mix a dubstep tune directly into a d&b tune or vice-versa, then the answer is, simply, you can't - not unless you want to ruin the vibe, by playing one at the other genre's tempo, or finding a mid-range bpm of 160 or something.

If you play a 140bpm dubstep tune at 150bpm, it sounds wank and loses all the bass elements. D&B is usually around 175bpm - so pitching a dubstep tune up that far is not going to result in a good sound experience

Find yourself as many short ambient tracks or vocal snippets, anything like that (artists like The Orb, Boards of Canada and the like have several tunes that last under 90 seconds), and blend them into intros/outros of tracks that don't begin or end with percussive elements.

I'm amazed how few DJ's actually seem to do this as it's always been an obvious solution to me. 5 dubstep tracks then a few seconds of ambience (not enough for people to go and sit down), then start a bit of d&b. This also means all those tunes you have with brilliant long intros get heard, rather than lost in the mix.

Thanks man.

I've discovered that you can't actually beat match the two, it just sounds wrong - hence the reason I've come on here. I would like to get it going though because they're both quality genres and I'd really like to be able to fuse the two.

I'll have to find myself a few "trippy" atmospheric styley intros and sort out the right tunes to use with them then.

Any recommendations? (I know you named a couple above already)

Re-EDIT.... re-edit a d&b tune to slowly break down into dubstep tempo. or vise-versa.

check out Benny Page's latest live remixes .. he does quite a good job starting with dnb, then dubstep and then dnb again. chase&status do that too on their essential mix. if you have an MC it's easier, btw

It's gotta be some kind of big eery build up where you can get away with not matching any percussion so people wont notice the tempo change....

i'd say use the intro of a dnb track into the drop of a dubstep track...

if you're talking beat matching then forget it.

slow hip hop to d n b is a goer tho.

either do fades on non beat sections, or make your own crossover track / mashup that switches the tempos half way through and get it cut to a dub or burn to cd

speed up dubstep, slow down dnb. easy enough.

some harder dnb tracks have techno breakdowns in them. you can mix then techno in and then continue with dubstep as it's mostly the same speed as techno.

Lynx - Disco Do Do also has a nice breakdown where you can mix dubstep with... ok now you have enough of my mixing secrets!

Get a mate to scream REEEEEWWWIIINNNDDD and then bang the cross fader across Half of the people iv played to have no clue about mixing so easily get away able.

On the serious..

I normally mix jump up then bring it down to something more jungle and then when one breaks down bring the other in the best you can, theres no chance of beat matching the two unfort...

Skream - Lightning played at 45 has a nice jungle vibe as well!

i didnt mean beatmatching half step - if you soft fade (not beat matched) into it its a less jarring tempo change

140 BPM goes great with 180 BPM!

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