Introducing EXCISION
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:41 pm
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Re: Introducing LEVEL 67
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:07 pm
Wikked
Large up the Södertälje massive
Large up the Södertälje massive
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:25 am
SOOOOOO RUFFFFFF!!!!! 
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:21 am
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... d=50201303
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex227erk_Q0
About 1:30 minutes inside, check it.
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex227erk_Q0
About 1:30 minutes inside, check it.
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:19 pm
yes yes yes. nicely done.
can i put that up? pm if you wanna sort something out.
safe.
can i put that up? pm if you wanna sort something out.
safe.
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:30 pm
bitten link fixed if anyones's interested...
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:24 pm
Miig could you please enlighten me. I've never really got into the whole blog thing before, so it could be me being incredibly naive . . . but how is it that you are allowed to give away all these tracks for free?
I love the hush house thing, but i can't get my head round it?
Do you get the tracks directly from the artists?
Cheers
I love the hush house thing, but i can't get my head round it?
Do you get the tracks directly from the artists?
Cheers
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:54 pm
Hello Mattrelton, I am not Level 67 but I've been blessed to recieve his works to promote through my radio show and elsewhere. I know for a fact that he has been more than willing to get his sound through other channels than my show alone, perhaps one is through Miig's Hush-house blog?mattrelton wrote:I love the hush house thing, but i can't get my head round it?
Do you get the tracks directly from the artists?
Cheers
If you have questions about the legality of Level 67's music, I suggest you ask him directly through is username here on Dubstepforum which is "Reksen".
I'm sure he is flattered by your concern, regarding piracy his material and any hard working musician for that matter which is part of this community.
Thanks
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:54 pm
Go ahead, go crazyMiig wrote:yes yes yes. nicely done.
can i put that up? pm if you wanna sort something out.
safe.
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:15 pm
yeh yeh. to start with we were purely re-posting songs which were found on other blogs - and normally these have come from the record label or artist as most bloggers realise that it's not their property to give away (we did post a couple of tracks we weren't sposed to but the traffic wasn't very big and was just to kinda build the reputation). however now we're being sent tunes directly and asking a few artists for them.
i believe blogging massively influences the sales - i'm sure there are people out there that thrive off the music which the blogs across the world post, and there always will be music piracy etc but there is also a massive proportion of people that respect the artist and actually enjoy purchasing a track. (you then have a full song, full quality and no guilty conscience)
the dubstep world seems a bit reluctant to blogging and i've said before that i believe this is down to the vinyl culture - as things move more and more digital blogging will increase. "it has massively changed the way people hear about and listen to music" alan hostage - he has just released his first EP after having about 10 or 12 songs all over the blogs for a year - and this is the way to do it. instead of hoarding tracks and only having a few people who know your name so only a few people buy your track.
we try and only post 320s as someone downloading a song of an artist they've never heard of before is going to pay a lot more attention to it and remember the name if the quality and sound is good. (i know this also depends on whether the track is any good or not) there is also the possibilty that djs will start playing that song out in mixes etc.
cockney thug is also a song that was all over the blogs when it was first about... getting dropped in all kinds of sets and that's why caspa and rusko are well known well outside of the dubstep genre. if you mention dubstep to some random student who is slightly into music - i'm sure they'd say caspa and rusko... (also down to the where's my money. for some reason people who were never into anything like it before absolutely love where's my money! i personally prefer the original)
this is why i couldn't understand why numbernin6 didn't want to spread the word a little more with that breathe track. pretty much the only people that know about it are people on dubstepforum and people who have listened to the rusko essential mix. it was only a 192 as well...! but i'm not gonna go into that.
if you're interested i can show you the map of all the visitors to the site we've had from across the world. which to start with amazed me! it's about getting that name out there. not the "piracy" - which can easily be assumed.
bit of a ramble but hopefully that makes sense. i'm tired!
i believe blogging massively influences the sales - i'm sure there are people out there that thrive off the music which the blogs across the world post, and there always will be music piracy etc but there is also a massive proportion of people that respect the artist and actually enjoy purchasing a track. (you then have a full song, full quality and no guilty conscience)
the dubstep world seems a bit reluctant to blogging and i've said before that i believe this is down to the vinyl culture - as things move more and more digital blogging will increase. "it has massively changed the way people hear about and listen to music" alan hostage - he has just released his first EP after having about 10 or 12 songs all over the blogs for a year - and this is the way to do it. instead of hoarding tracks and only having a few people who know your name so only a few people buy your track.
we try and only post 320s as someone downloading a song of an artist they've never heard of before is going to pay a lot more attention to it and remember the name if the quality and sound is good. (i know this also depends on whether the track is any good or not) there is also the possibilty that djs will start playing that song out in mixes etc.
cockney thug is also a song that was all over the blogs when it was first about... getting dropped in all kinds of sets and that's why caspa and rusko are well known well outside of the dubstep genre. if you mention dubstep to some random student who is slightly into music - i'm sure they'd say caspa and rusko... (also down to the where's my money. for some reason people who were never into anything like it before absolutely love where's my money! i personally prefer the original)
this is why i couldn't understand why numbernin6 didn't want to spread the word a little more with that breathe track. pretty much the only people that know about it are people on dubstepforum and people who have listened to the rusko essential mix. it was only a 192 as well...! but i'm not gonna go into that.
if you're interested i can show you the map of all the visitors to the site we've had from across the world. which to start with amazed me! it's about getting that name out there. not the "piracy" - which can easily be assumed.
bit of a ramble but hopefully that makes sense. i'm tired!
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:19 pm
Ok, thanks for the explanation.
keep pushing good sounds!
keep pushing good sounds!
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:17 am
no worries...
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:10 pm
That's the important distinction to make. Asking for permission totally changes the context of the whole situation. All the best with the blogmattrelton wrote:Do you get the tracks directly from the artists?
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:46 am
I find it hard not to get angry about this and I loathe to post in a thread thus bumping your link, however I will attempt to explain why I think you, quite basically, are stealling hard earned from artists and labels pockets to make a name for yourself or whatever twisted form of lazy self satisfying ego you try to justify with that complete load of shit you just posted.
Blogs serve thier purpose in the world and serve them well. There's no denying the proliferation of blogs throughout the music scene has helped bring the sound and history to a wider audience. Yet blogs like Hush House do nothing but damage sales for small indie labels like mine. As you can see in this thread most are confused and seem to think you obtain these mp3's legally and this a legitimate source for getting mp3s. IT IS NOT. You rarely post the myspaces or purchase details of the songs you so 'lovingly promote', only the fucking 320's.(Some how I think Rusko's Cockney Thug might have just made it regardless of your so called promotion. Talk about a fucking ego) SO how you can claim you 'massively increase sales' is fucking beyond me. If genuinely gave a shit about the artists or labels, you would request promo clips, ask to be put on mailing lists, write actual articles, link myspaces or purchase portals. But, unsurprisingly, you don't.
Indie labels like Soul Motive struggle to keep out releases high quality and provide a complete package whilst breaking even, or god forbid making money for our artists work. To go on your site and find that you have pirated and offer 320 copies of our music (320's that we provide for FUCKING FREE IF YOU BUY THE VINYL) is utterly disgraceful and no amount of you quoting artists or claiming the massive worldwide audience you have or suggesting you are somehow (yet quite obviously not) increasing sales for labels will justify you doing this.
I'm kinda dismayed dubstepforum goers don't see what you are actually doing here, but you do it with such audacity that people assume you must have the legal or at the least moral right to put these tunes on there.
I doubt very much Luke Envoy or Joker will agree with your bullshit statement above and I will be informing as many labels and artists as I know to give you and your website shit. I said it before and I say it again:
YOU ARE A FUCKING STEALING tnuc, TAKE FUCKING SNAKE EATER OFF YOUR SITE. STOP PRETENDING YOU ARE SOME HOW HELPING ARTISTS AND LABELS.
I know and everyone else here knows you're not going to stop the blog, becase it feeds whatever hungry ego you have. But I'd like the truth about your cunting blog to be known to however small amount of people read this.
And that should anyone ever come across:
Prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrick.
Blogs serve thier purpose in the world and serve them well. There's no denying the proliferation of blogs throughout the music scene has helped bring the sound and history to a wider audience. Yet blogs like Hush House do nothing but damage sales for small indie labels like mine. As you can see in this thread most are confused and seem to think you obtain these mp3's legally and this a legitimate source for getting mp3s. IT IS NOT. You rarely post the myspaces or purchase details of the songs you so 'lovingly promote', only the fucking 320's.(Some how I think Rusko's Cockney Thug might have just made it regardless of your so called promotion. Talk about a fucking ego) SO how you can claim you 'massively increase sales' is fucking beyond me. If genuinely gave a shit about the artists or labels, you would request promo clips, ask to be put on mailing lists, write actual articles, link myspaces or purchase portals. But, unsurprisingly, you don't.
Indie labels like Soul Motive struggle to keep out releases high quality and provide a complete package whilst breaking even, or god forbid making money for our artists work. To go on your site and find that you have pirated and offer 320 copies of our music (320's that we provide for FUCKING FREE IF YOU BUY THE VINYL) is utterly disgraceful and no amount of you quoting artists or claiming the massive worldwide audience you have or suggesting you are somehow (yet quite obviously not) increasing sales for labels will justify you doing this.
I'm kinda dismayed dubstepforum goers don't see what you are actually doing here, but you do it with such audacity that people assume you must have the legal or at the least moral right to put these tunes on there.
I doubt very much Luke Envoy or Joker will agree with your bullshit statement above and I will be informing as many labels and artists as I know to give you and your website shit. I said it before and I say it again:
YOU ARE A FUCKING STEALING tnuc, TAKE FUCKING SNAKE EATER OFF YOUR SITE. STOP PRETENDING YOU ARE SOME HOW HELPING ARTISTS AND LABELS.
I know and everyone else here knows you're not going to stop the blog, becase it feeds whatever hungry ego you have. But I'd like the truth about your cunting blog to be known to however small amount of people read this.
And that should anyone ever come across:
tell them they're lying egotistical thieving fucking stnuc.Fibs & Thade, residents @ Dance Club in Norwich which is run by Kashta at Mustard Lounge.
Prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrick.
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:14 pm
I did say that I had posted a couple of tracks which we shouldn't have done - I didn't realise Snake Eater was still up there. A quick email could have sorted that out days ago.
I'm sorry for posting that Snake Eater track - I agree this is stealing from you.
I didn't do any promotion for Cockney thug? I was talking the hundreds of other blogs? "Talk about a fucking ego?" Hmm.
We are on mailing lists...
You might have noticed the white words in the posts - these are links to myspaces or where you can buy the tracks - if the tracks are available to buy - which in most cases is not possible. Which is pretty much the main reason for the blog. (I agree there weren't any links in the post which featured Snake Eater - this was my second post and there won't be any more like this in the future).
People will always have different views on blogging. I'm not quite sure where this ego-boosting idea comes from though? A lot of artists love it and are more than happy to get involved.
I completely understand your point and can see how small labels suffer from such blogs. Perhaps a post on your label would make up for it?
Sorry.
I'm sorry for posting that Snake Eater track - I agree this is stealing from you.
I didn't do any promotion for Cockney thug? I was talking the hundreds of other blogs? "Talk about a fucking ego?" Hmm.
We are on mailing lists...
You might have noticed the white words in the posts - these are links to myspaces or where you can buy the tracks - if the tracks are available to buy - which in most cases is not possible. Which is pretty much the main reason for the blog. (I agree there weren't any links in the post which featured Snake Eater - this was my second post and there won't be any more like this in the future).
People will always have different views on blogging. I'm not quite sure where this ego-boosting idea comes from though? A lot of artists love it and are more than happy to get involved.
I completely understand your point and can see how small labels suffer from such blogs. Perhaps a post on your label would make up for it?
Sorry.
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:29 pm
I don't think he was claiming that he personally is massively increasing sales, he said in his view blogging does, also there are links to artists myspace's on it and to beatport among other sites
however, if the 320s are pirated, then wtf, that's not on and sort it mate and take down snake eater too.
i also strongly disagree with this "and this is the way to do it. instead of hoarding tracks and only having a few people who know your name so only a few people buy your track."
fuck that mate, in my opinion everyone on this forum and in the scene is in this for the music and enjoying making the music and hearing other peoples tunes, its about vibes and enjoying yourself, not sales and commercial bollocks, sure that's a nice bonus but, in my eyes at least, not a major factor...
however, if the 320s are pirated, then wtf, that's not on and sort it mate and take down snake eater too.
i also strongly disagree with this "and this is the way to do it. instead of hoarding tracks and only having a few people who know your name so only a few people buy your track."
fuck that mate, in my opinion everyone on this forum and in the scene is in this for the music and enjoying making the music and hearing other peoples tunes, its about vibes and enjoying yourself, not sales and commercial bollocks, sure that's a nice bonus but, in my eyes at least, not a major factor...
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:52 pm
I have taken snake eater down - and will take down any other songs which are pirated as I don't agree with piracy. DSF provides a small amount of the views of the blog and I decided to make the blog known to DSF as we love dubstep, focus on dubstep and issues like this would be raised.
I agree with the vibe and enjoying peoples tunes etc and that's what we want to do - increase that vibe. I love the vibe! Pick up little artists and get their tunes out so people listen to them.
Money, I'm afraid to say it, plays a large part in everything. We can try and ignore it but without money we wouldn't have a scene. Or would we?
From now on I will be very careful on what I say/post. I am only 18 - I'm not trying to piss anyone off, and I feel I have. I just want to have some input as I spend every minute of the thinking about music!
I listen to and respect everything anyone has to say.
I agree with the vibe and enjoying peoples tunes etc and that's what we want to do - increase that vibe. I love the vibe! Pick up little artists and get their tunes out so people listen to them.
Money, I'm afraid to say it, plays a large part in everything. We can try and ignore it but without money we wouldn't have a scene. Or would we?
From now on I will be very careful on what I say/post. I am only 18 - I'm not trying to piss anyone off, and I feel I have. I just want to have some input as I spend every minute of the thinking about music!
I listen to and respect everything anyone has to say.
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:59 pm
no worries man, i don't mean to come across as aggressive or owt if thats the impression i gave. The blogs really good though man, one of the only ones I actually go on, would have never heard of jack beats if it wasn't for your blog, big ups 
keep on doin it
keep on doin it
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:59 pm
double post 
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:00 pm
bandshell - my problem is with his attempted justification up there is he is deliberately trying to make it sound like his type of blogging (read stealing) made cockney thug the hit it was. Why mention this at at all:
Actually check out how many artists have these links he mentions, Joker doesn't, Luke Envoy doesn't, I don't. Yet there 320's of our tracks are up there. So that 'for the good of the artist' arguement doesn't hold water.
And if it wasn't ego related/self promo, why is the first thing you see at the top of the blog about the guys playing thier residency? So they get to post my label's tunes in full quality and promo themselves without even so much as the fucking courtesy of asking us for clips of the tunes? OR A FUCKING MYSPACE LINK FOR THE LABEL. I dunno what you think man, but personally I think that's a fucked up way of supposedly pushing the music you love.
As for you 'sales and commercial bollocks' being a bonus but not a major factor, get involved g, invest a lot of your hard earned money and time in running a label and everything that entails. let alone the time, effort and passion the artists invest, and it stops being a bonus and it starts being a necessity. We're all in it for the music, but we all have to pay the rent/mortgage at the end of the month.
As to Miig, unless all the illegal 320's are taken down from your site, I don't want my label or any of the tracks involved to appear on your site or associated with it in anyway. Stop saying you're sorry, because you're not.
EDIT: And as for that snide 'an email would have sufficed' comment, why would I want to let other people continue thinking you're doing this legitimately, whilst still helping yourself to mine and many others hard work.
if it's not to justify posting the 320's on blogs in that post then?cockney thug is also a song that was all over the blogs when it was first about... getting dropped in all kinds of sets and that's why caspa and rusko are well known well outside of the dubstep genre. if you mention dubstep to some random student who is slightly into music - i'm sure they'd say caspa and rusko...
Actually check out how many artists have these links he mentions, Joker doesn't, Luke Envoy doesn't, I don't. Yet there 320's of our tracks are up there. So that 'for the good of the artist' arguement doesn't hold water.
And if it wasn't ego related/self promo, why is the first thing you see at the top of the blog about the guys playing thier residency? So they get to post my label's tunes in full quality and promo themselves without even so much as the fucking courtesy of asking us for clips of the tunes? OR A FUCKING MYSPACE LINK FOR THE LABEL. I dunno what you think man, but personally I think that's a fucked up way of supposedly pushing the music you love.
As for you 'sales and commercial bollocks' being a bonus but not a major factor, get involved g, invest a lot of your hard earned money and time in running a label and everything that entails. let alone the time, effort and passion the artists invest, and it stops being a bonus and it starts being a necessity. We're all in it for the music, but we all have to pay the rent/mortgage at the end of the month.
As to Miig, unless all the illegal 320's are taken down from your site, I don't want my label or any of the tracks involved to appear on your site or associated with it in anyway. Stop saying you're sorry, because you're not.
EDIT: And as for that snide 'an email would have sufficed' comment, why would I want to let other people continue thinking you're doing this legitimately, whilst still helping yourself to mine and many others hard work.