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Got two questions here, so i thought id ask the two in one thread.

My first is, can anyone suggest a good saturation plugin for your basses?

and my second is, can you or has anybody got NI Massive to work on windows vista?

its beginning to piss me off. iv searched high and low for an update or something to get mine to work, but i can't find a thing. my daw's cubase sx3 so you know.
perhaps its just me being blind or stupid, but if anyone could help i would be very gratefull.

or if you could suggest any other good synths to use for my basses i'd be interested to hear about them, because i suppose massive and albino have already been caned.

cheers

p.s. i should of said three questions

Re: Bass saturation plugins.

Lets start with payware.

Camel Audio Camelphat 3 does lots of sexy things to basslines....

Audio Damage Kombinant is the new kid on the block for multi distortion plugins..

Ohmforce Predatohm and Ohmicide do all sionging and all dancing distortions.

I'm sure there's bare more but I've forgotten them off the top of my head...

Anyway, freeware! (All the recommendations below will give you good saturation)

Digitalfishphones Blockfish compressor* adds naughty levels of saturation to any sauce material (pun intended)

MBD1 Multiband Distortion puts audio damage kombinant to shame (cuz its free blad!) Top tip: Turn off all the distortion bands, turn down the limiter and turn up the preamp gain

MBcrushy is pretty raw, but can be used subtly if careful

Camel Audio Camel Camel Crusher: Free with Computer Music and Music Tech magazines. Also available from the link below

I'm sure there are loads of other that other people can recommend. Maybe check out this link here ---> http://gersic.com/plugins/index.php?daCat=7

*Get this and your search is over imo...

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Synths:

Audjoo Helix (beta version is freeware) - Filthy disgusting filter/distortion chains, innovative ADSR controls (amongst other things)...

Jeremy Meyers Atlantis (Freeware) - Excellent modulation system (similar to Massive), excellent oscillator controls, good effects...

Vember Audio Surge - Really simple yet flexible modulation routings, great oscillator controls, good filterbanks.

FAW Circle - Good modulation controls, interesting wavetables

shibbybo wrote:and my second is, can you or has anybody got NI Massive to work on windows vista?

its beginning to piss me off. iv searched high and low for an update or something to get mine to work, but i can't find a thing. my daw's cubase sx3 so you know.
perhaps its just me being blind or stupid, but if anyone could help i would be very gratefull.

unlucky! I have vista n work on cubase sx3 with massive, it works fine....

keep trying, you'll get there

cheers, got camel phatt 3 and its fookin well good. the just subs setting is amazing.

got massive working atlast aswell, thank fuck!!!!!

one last question. im in the process of reading the manual(for massive) but hopefully someone might be able to answer me quicker.

can you route it so that the velocity of the note controls the speed of the LFO?

ill-esha wrote:I'm surprised nobody here has mentioned assigning velocity to automate your LFO rate. And yeah, you still can't do it when synced... but I'm doing it all the time now. Just play/draw in your notes, and then carefully edit the velocities and your wobble will go faster and slower.

BOH!

I suggest you PM ill-esha for details of how it's done...

futures_untold wrote:I suggest you PM ill-esha for details of how it's done...

Or you could just click the little cross/crosshair/handle on the velocity label in the macro control panel and then click the little box under the rate knob for your desired lfo. It's not rocket science and hardly worth a pm.

flateric wrote:

futures_untold wrote:I suggest you PM ill-esha for details of how it's done...

Or you could just click the little cross/crosshair/handle on the velocity label in the macro control panel and then click the little box under the rate knob for your desired lfo. It's not rocket science and hardly worth a pm.

This.

Sorry, I've never really used Massive properly...

futures_untold wrote:

flateric wrote:

futures_untold wrote:I suggest you PM ill-esha for details of how it's done...

Or you could just click the little cross/crosshair/handle on the velocity label in the macro control panel and then click the little box under the rate knob for your desired lfo. It's not rocket science and hardly worth a pm.

This.

Sorry, I've never really used Massive properly...

LOL! you should have just asked how it was done in the thread. You really should give the manual a good read (if you find it hard then have massive open whilst you're reading so you can flick back and forth). Probably worth skimming then reading again.

futures_untold wrote:
Digitalfishphones Blockfish compressor* adds naughty levels of saturation to any sauce material (pun intended)

blockfish is the only thing that's not 100% awesome about having moved to an intel mac in 2006. It is/was, without a doubt, the single-coolest and most useful software compressor out there. I'd give the dude a few hundred bucks if he'd port it to UB-- it's that good and that useful. nice, simple, easy to use and sounds GREAT.

Doesn't he write all the plugins for Samplitude now? That Ammunition thing - I THINK - is by him, and that gets rave reviews. Really want to try it. I think you can get that on Mac...

I may be a bit confused here , but he is writing stuff for another company anyway.

All the fish fillets are well handy. Bona fide VST classics.

futures_untold wrote:

ill-esha wrote:I'm surprised nobody here has mentioned assigning velocity to automate your LFO rate. And yeah, you still can't do it when synced... but I'm doing it all the time now. Just play/draw in your notes, and then carefully edit the velocities and your wobble will go faster and slower.

BOH!

I suggest you PM ill-esha for details of how it's done...

It's actually not the smartest idea to do this, velocity is best used to control volume (something you don't need cc for due to internal envelopes and such). If you're using fl just twist a knob you want to automate and then click the menu button for the plugin wrapper (make sure you're using a vst as opposed to a dx plugin) and then open the submenu for "last tweaked parameters".

If I was automating LFO speed in fl I'd probably use automation clips as it would be a lot easier to chop and change values. So what I'd do is play my loop in song mode (make a selection the same length as your loop in the track time bar) , find a value I like and then create an automation clip (plugin wrapper menu>last tweaked parameter>create automation clip). The clip will be created with the current controller value and the automation clip should be the same length as the area selected (if it isn't you've cocked up) so you'll want to make it shorter (cut it so you have a clip 1/16 in length). You could edit the rest of the clip with your mouse but I think it's best to move the clip past your loop (after it ends, to the right) and repeat the process (find an lfo rate I like> create automation clip> cut it> repeat).

Now sequence your automation clips against your loop (will probably want to increase your loop length for this). jobs a good'un and you still have velocity for controlling volume

nowaysj wrote:I'd like to be able to control lfo rate w/in fl's piano roll, myself...

last tweaked parameter>edit in piano roll

nowaysj wrote: Another thing you can do, and don't ask me to tell you cause its complex, look it up on the fl boards, is you can set dedicated buttons on your midi controller to send diff lfo rate values

You just set buttons up to send specific cc values that relate to different lf sync rates

nowaysj wrote:Yeah, would like definite lfo rates, anyway, yes, piano roll.

sending the right cc value... explain that, if you've got the energy.

sending the right cc value to massive as to automate lfo speed so that it is in sync?

just started a thread about it.