Is this illegal?

Hibbie · Post by **Hibbie** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:20 pm

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DJ-N-Type-JUNGLE- ... 240%3A1318

surface_tension · Post by **surface_tension** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:22 pm

probably not. shady yes.

HGLDT · Post by **HGLDT** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:04 pm

deffs illegal. he doesn't have rights to the show or any tunes played on it.

kidcazual · Post by **kidcazual** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:12 pm

WHAT A FUCKIN COCKJOCKEY

edward3685 · Post by **edward3685** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:36 pm

cheeky fucker..should have 10gs of ket shoved up his snout and the cd played to him with everybody fucking with his head...whos on it.
ez steppas

surface_tension · Post by **surface_tension** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:38 pm

smartface wrote:deffs illegal. he doesn't have rights to the show or any tunes played on it.

Go check out the mix forum. Welcome to that Ebay auction. Technically if you didn't produce the track, even if you bought it on vinyl you have no legal right to play the track in a mix, or live if you want to wax philosophical about it.

spooKs · Post by **spooKs** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:40 pm

Surface_Tension wrote:
smartface wrote:deffs illegal. he doesn't have rights to the show or any tunes played on it.
Go check out the mix forum. Welcome to that Ebay auction. Technically if you didn't produce the track, even if you bought it on vinyl you have no legal right to play the track in a mix, or live if you want to wax philosophical about it.

WTF!? They're not selling the mixes!

djake · Post by **djake** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:22 am

spooKs wrote:
Surface_Tension wrote:
smartface wrote:deffs illegal. he doesn't have rights to the show or any tunes played on it.
Go check out the mix forum. Welcome to that Ebay auction. Technically if you didn't produce the track, even if you bought it on vinyl you have no legal right to play the track in a mix, or live if you want to wax philosophical about it.
WTF!? They're not selling the mixes!

my thoughts exactly

surface_tension · Post by **surface_tension** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:04 am

spooKs wrote:
Surface_Tension wrote:
smartface wrote:deffs illegal. he doesn't have rights to the show or any tunes played on it.
Go check out the mix forum. Welcome to that Ebay auction. Technically if you didn't produce the track, even if you bought it on vinyl you have no legal right to play the track in a mix, or live if you want to wax philosophical about it.
WTF!? They're not selling the mixes!

That doesn't matter. You don't purchase performance rights when you buy a CD, correct? This material may not be broadcast, performed, etc... read the fine print next time you buy a CD. You purchase a license to listen to and make one copy of for personal use. You have no right to distribute, or otherwise share, including derivative works. I'd be happy to have my lawyer explain it. Fear not, you can most assuredly play the living piss out of our records that come from our label. But if we wanted to be assholes, we could legally put a stop to it. Ask any major club owner who has to pay royalties out the ass just to stay in business.

HGLDT · Post by **HGLDT** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:09 am

Surface_Tension wrote:
spooKs wrote:
Surface_Tension wrote:
smartface wrote:deffs illegal. he doesn't have rights to the show or any tunes played on it.
Go check out the mix forum. Welcome to that Ebay auction. Technically if you didn't produce the track, even if you bought it on vinyl you have no legal right to play the track in a mix, or live if you want to wax philosophical about it.
WTF!? They're not selling the mixes!
That doesn't matter. You don't purchase performance rights when you buy a CD, correct? This material may not be broadcast, performed, etc... read the fine print next time you buy a CD. You purchase a license to listen to and make one copy of for personal use. You have no right to distribute, or otherwise share, including derivative works. I'd be happy to have my lawyer explain it. Fear not, you can most assuredly play the living piss out of our records that come from our label. But if we wanted to be assholes, we could legally put a stop to it. Ask any major club owner who has to pay royalties out the ass just to stay in business.

I'm definitely aware that it's as illegal technically, I'm just morally against some guy making profit off of it. The initial question was is it illegal, and yes, technically it is.
Off topic: big up on the release.

spooKs · Post by **spooKs** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:18 am

Surface_Tension wrote:
spooKs wrote:
Surface_Tension wrote:
smartface wrote:deffs illegal. he doesn't have rights to the show or any tunes played on it.
Go check out the mix forum. Welcome to that Ebay auction. Technically if you didn't produce the track, even if you bought it on vinyl you have no legal right to play the track in a mix, or live if you want to wax philosophical about it.
WTF!? They're not selling the mixes!
That doesn't matter. You don't purchase performance rights when you buy a CD, correct? This material may not be broadcast, performed, etc... read the fine print next time you buy a CD. You purchase a license to listen to and make one copy of for personal use. You have no right to distribute, or otherwise share, including derivative works. I'd be happy to have my lawyer explain it. Fear not, you can most assuredly play the living piss out of our records that come from our label. But if we wanted to be assholes, we could legally put a stop to it. Ask any major club owner who has to pay royalties out the ass just to stay in business.

Are you condoning the behaviour of the ebay poster? If not, you're just digressing for the sake of being pedantic!

JazzyJazzy · Post by **JazzyJazzy** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:23 am

the broadcast itself is probably illegal.

ory · Post by **ory** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:26 am

Uncle Clement wrote:the broadcast itself is probably illegal.

nah not this particular one, which I think is from the mary anne hobbs show. I see your point though.

surface_tension · Post by **surface_tension** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:31 am

spooKs wrote:Are you condoning the behaviour of the ebay poster? If not, you're just digressing for the sake of being pedantic!

I'm saying that if you aren't prepared to do something about it, it's legal. It may be shady, but what are you going to do? If you support the mix forum, you support the Ebay poster. pretty clear.

look at the price... hardly the cost of a CD init. he's selling a CD that happens to contain data. market it that way and nobody says anything legally. sad but true.

jables · Post by **jables** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:35 am

svcxxx

komonazmuk · Post by **komonazmuk** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:39 am

go on son only 99p credit crunch is hitting us all ehh mark? lol

kidcazual · Post by **kidcazual** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:41 am

komonazmuk wrote:go on son only 99p credit crunch is hitting us all ehh mark? lol

NTYPE TOLD ME HE WAS MOVING TO IPSWICH , IT ALL BECOMES CLEAR NOW , CHOCCY BARS AINT CHEAP NOWADAYS

surface_tension · Post by **surface_tension** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:51 am

smartface wrote:I'm definitely aware that it's as illegal technically, I'm just morally against some guy making profit off of it. The initial question was is it illegal, and yes, technically it is.
Off topic: big up on the release.

I'm with ya on this. Both parts actually. I'm against it as well.

And also, thanks. We're well excited about the new release.

kidlogic · Post by **kidlogic** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:55 am

Surface_Tension wrote:
spooKs wrote:Are you condoning the behaviour of the ebay poster? If not, you're just digressing for the sake of being pedantic!
I'm saying that if you aren't prepared to do something about it, it's legal. It may be shady, but what are you going to do? If you support the mix forum, you support the Ebay poster. pretty clear.

look at the price... hardly the cost of a CD init. he's selling a CD that happens to contain data. market it that way and nobody says anything legally. sad but true.

I disagree. Your rationale of "since no one is willing to do anything about it, its legal" is flawed. Its illegal, as you yourself pointed out in an earlier post. Regardless of if someone is gonna do something about it, it is. If its not, your lawyer fed you a bunch of BS.

DJ Mixes have long been an acepted way for DJs, artists and labels to promote. With the exception (rightfully so) of all label mixes, i.e. all Deep Medi or all DMZ, most labels only get upset when you try to sell them. Supporting the mix forum does not support this guy. Quite the opposite in my opinion.

By the way, CDs cost about 10 cents. He's charging the equivilant of about $3 US. Not exactly raking it in hand over fist, but he is making a 3000% profit on about 3mins worth of work.

If he was smart about it, he would be selling the "cloth CD sleeve" that the cd comes in and giving the cd away for free.

COURT · Post by **COURT** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:11 am

joke.

tight pockets all round.

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