Ableton just died

dorwarddubz · Post by **dorwarddubz** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:43 pm

on me :/

suppose thats what i get for for using cracked software..

was thinking of downloading reason but i'm not sure

what would you guys recommend i get?

dorwarddubz · Post by **dorwarddubz** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:55 pm

hahaa
rather wait till my student loan comes through,
and get ableton 8.
but until then
i need to make beats somehow

Mad_EP · Post by **Mad_EP** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:56 pm

Lienne wrote:Buy ableton

This.

Without getting into the same morality arguments over & over, the bottom line is- if you want your software to work & have tech support, then buy it. Simple as.

legend4ry · Post by **legend4ry** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:58 pm

mad ep wrote:
Lienne wrote:Buy ableton
This.

Without getting into the same morality arguments over & over, the bottom line is- if you want your software to work & have tech support, then buy it. Simple as.

Yeah innit, its not even a moral issue... Why learn another DAW when you can save up and get Ableton and not have to put weeks maybe months in learning a new DAW.. I'd rather just save an go get inspired till then.

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dorwarddubz · Post by **dorwarddubz** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:08 pm

ahahha
look..
if i had the dollar to buy it now, i would.
and i dont think i could go like 6 months without making tunes
abletons live 8 is like like 450 and thats without the Vestax VCM-600 which is like 650 :/

legend4ry · Post by **legend4ry** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:15 pm

http://www.reaper.fm/

altered state · Post by **altered state** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:15 pm

You could always learn how to use a free DAW, or a slightly cheaper one, like Renoise.

But I mean, this is only if you *really* cant go without making tunes... and not just here for the bandwagon.

Mad_EP · Post by **Mad_EP** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:21 pm

DorwardDubz wrote: but until then
i need to make beats somehow

One important distinction...

You don't NEED to make beats, you WANT to make beats. And that doesn't entitle you to anything... What would you do if your computer broke down, steal another?

6 months is nothing. I once had to go a year without a computer to make music with.. and I ended up filling 5 notebooks of ideas & notations. To be honest, I think it actually helped- if you can hold onto several ideas in your head for that long, then you know you have some dedication.

If you really can't do without, get a job. Get 2 jobs. Sell some of your stuff... etc etc. There are plenty of ways, but if you can't be bothered, then waiting 6 months for a handout shouldn't be a problem either.

legend4ry · Post by **legend4ry** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:22 pm

mad ep wrote:
DorwardDubz wrote: but until then
i need to make beats somehow
One important distinction...

You don't NEED to make beats, you WANT to make beats. And that doesn't entitle you to anything... What would you do if your computer broke down, steal another?

6 months is nothing. I once had to go a year without a computer to make music with.. and I ended up filling 5 notebooks of ideas & notations. To be honest, I think it actually helped- if you can hold onto several ideas in your head for that long, then you know you have some dedication.

If you really can't do without, get a job. Get 2 jobs. Sell some of your stuff... etc etc. There are plenty of ways, but if you can't be bothered, then waiting 6 months for a handout shouldn't be a problem either.

Thats what the kids called "pwned" innit?

caeraphym · Post by **caeraphym** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:24 pm

I needed a car, so I knicked one to go to the shops.

I needed some money so I mugged a fucking granny.

I needed to get my dick wet so I got jiggy wid yo mama.

emef · Post by **emef** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:30 pm

Legendary wrote:http://www.reaper.fm/

+1

dorwarddubz · Post by **dorwarddubz** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:40 pm

mad ep wrote:
DorwardDubz wrote: but until then
i need to make beats somehow
One important distinction...

You don't NEED to make beats, you WANT to make beats. And that doesn't entitle you to anything... What would you do if your computer broke down, steal another?

6 months is nothing. I once had to go a year without a computer to make music with.. and I ended up filling 5 notebooks of ideas & notations. To be honest, I think it actually helped- if you can hold onto several ideas in your head for that long, then you know you have some dedication.

If you really can't do without, get a job. Get 2 jobs. Sell some of your stuff... etc etc. There are plenty of ways, but if you can't be bothered, then waiting 6 months for a handout shouldn't be a problem either.

Actually,
i'm in my final year of college, doing advanced music 5 days a week.
So yes i do NEED to make beats both at college and at home or i won't pass,
and if i don't pass there will be no "Handout" of which you speak of. because i won't be going to uni..

i can understand where your coming from asking me to wait 6 months and just write down whatever inspiration comes to mind,
but i have been practicing live music for over 6 years and have my grade 7 in guitar and grade 5 in Drums, so i know what i want to make, and how i want it to sound, i have ideas jotted on paper all over the place.
I just need somewhere to let out my creativity.

emef · Post by **emef** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:44 pm

reaper license is 50 dollars £30 (non commercial)
you get a lot of program for that money
get a bunch of free vsti/vst from kvr
not expensive

whineo · Post by **whineo** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:44 pm

DorwardDubz wrote:
suppose thats what i get for for using cracked software..

was thinking of Downgrading to reason but i'm not sure

fixed

bring the flames

you can still use the ableton forum to solve your problem even if you dont have a licence

dorwarddubz · Post by **dorwarddubz** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:46 pm

Whineo wrote:
DorwardDubz wrote:
suppose thats what i get for for using cracked software..

was thinking of Downgrading to reason but i'm not sure

HAHAHAHAH
yerr i did'nt realise you couldnt use VSTs
whats that crack about?! :S

dorwarddubz · Post by **dorwarddubz** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:53 pm

probably gonna get more hate for not buying shit...
but i got a cracked version of Native instruments.
Ableton live is just closing down like 5 seconds after i press play
you think it could have anything to do with using cracked vsts?
although i havnt had problems in the past :/

Mad_EP · Post by **Mad_EP** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:03 pm

DorwardDubz wrote: Actually,
i'm in my final year of college, doing advanced music 5 days a week.
So yes i do NEED to make beats both at college and at home or i won't pass,
and if i don't pass there will be no "Handout" of which you speak of. because i won't be going to uni..
i can understand where your coming from asking me to wait 6 months and just write down whatever inspiration comes to mind,
but i have been practicing live music for over 6 years and have my grade 7 in guitar and grade 5 in Drums, so i know what i want to make, and how i want it to sound, i have ideas jotted on paper all over the place.
I just need somewhere to let out my creativity.

That still brings me back to...

If you really can't do without, get a job. Get 2 jobs. Sell some of your stuff... etc etc.

Or as many people have stated, Reaper [£30 quid for a 64-bit DAW is more than reasonable!!]... plus plenty of freeware options.

Surely doing "advanced music 5 days a week" at college has given you the skills to express yourself, regardless of a few minor software limitations?

dorwarddubz · Post by **dorwarddubz** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:39 pm

to quote mad ep "Surely doing "advanced music 5 days a week" at college has given you the skills to express yourself, regardless of a few minor software limitations?"

at college we use Logic 8 or play in bands. i have neither a mac, nor the ability to pull a band out my arse and play live dubstep/garage.. as awesome as that would be.

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