Dubstep's dead baby, Dubstep's dead

[mico viejo]

I'm playing devil's advocate a bit, but heres something to think about:

We're starting to see Dubstep's influence spreading to other areas of music now, with people outside the scene mixing the sound with other genres, what might be considered the second stage of a scene, for example check:

www.myspace.com/spuek

www.various.co.uk

This aint neccesarily a bad thing (I'm personally feeling some of this), but stage 3 can't be far off: a David Bowie dubstep LP or some shit.

Secondly, I'm starting to wonder if Dubstep didn't die already the moment the name was coined. There's a lot of talk about how exciting the scene is cos it hasnt been locked down to any one thing yet, hasnt become formulaic. And yeah, maybe that was the case in the beginning. I bought some of the early Horsepower, Darqwan, Zed Bias stuff when it came out and din't really know what music it was, and I get the impression that they dint either. They just did it. And that stuff was exciting.

I'm rambling here, but what I wanted to say was that if u just check the first dubstep allstars LP it was diverse, exciting, more of a dark 2-step sound, but check allstars no.4 and 90% of it is pretty weak and samey. Kind of a wak white-man's reggae; hardly fukcing groundbreaking.

Its like once the name dubstep stuck everyone went "oh yeah, gots to stick some stupid skanking sounds and echoing vocals in now or it isnt dubstep".

Apart from that, I'm a little dubious as to whether its a real scene like grime is. Seems a little artificial to me, like its all just a fuss created on the internet. But maybe thats how all new forms are gonna develop now?

So, anyway, dubstep's dead, yeah: debate....

[intoccabile]

10 pages by tomorrow !

[alex bk-bk]

lol o well props to the guy at least he came out and said it

[forensix (mcr)]

oh great prophet of dubstep thank you for your wise words, quick shut down the forum, close down the studios, cos the word has been spoken, dubstep is dead





trying lookingaround a bit more and you'll find diversity, two copies of dubstep allstars isnt gonna provide you with aot to go off

[bruno belluomini]

Ha! Really? If so... I wasn't invited to the burial...

[r33lc4sh]

this topic gonna be sweeeeeeeeeeet

[intoccabile]

" Kind of a wak white-man's reggae "

LOLOLOL !

[moderator]

I'm playing devil's advocate a bit, but heres something to think about:

We're starting to see Dubstep's influence spreading to other areas of music now, with people outside the scene mixing the sound with other genres, what might be considered the second stage of a scene, for example check:

www.myspace.com/spuek

www.various.co.uk

This aint neccesarily a bad thing (I'm personally feeling some of this), but stage 3 can't be far off: a David Bowie dubstep LP or some shit.

Secondly, I'm starting to wonder if Dubstep didn't die already the moment the name was coined. There's a lot of talk about how exciting the scene is cos it hasnt been locked down to any one thing yet, hasnt become formulaic. And yeah, maybe that was the case in the beginning. I bought some of the early Horsepower, Darqwan, Zed Bias stuff when it came out and din't really know what music it was, and I get the impression that they dint either. They just did it. And that stuff was exciting.

I'm rambling here, but what I wanted to say was that if u just check the first dubstep allstars LP it was diverse, exciting, more of a dark 2-step sound, but check allstars no.4 and 90% of it is pretty weak and samey. Kind of a wak white-man's reggae; hardly fukcing groundbreaking.

Its like once the name dubstep stuck everyone went "oh yeah, gots to stick some stupid skanking sounds and echoing vocals in now or it isnt dubstep".

Apart from that, I'm a little dubious as to whether its a real scene like grime is. Seems a little artificial to me, like its all just a fuss created on the internet. But maybe thats how all new forms are gonna develop now?

So, anyway, dubstep's dead, yeah: debate....

Welcome to the forum.

Fantastic way to introduce yourself.

Moderator

[elgato]

dont think its dead, cos i think that a weird way to look at things, but there is something in your words (and before ppl get aggy with him he did start by sayin he's playing devils advocate! (presuming you're a he ))

its changing, but it has been ever since GC made Stone Cold or whatever, and as it will continue to do, some change may not be to some ppls tastes, it may be to others

there were a lot of shit / standard tunes made back in the day, but there were a lot of amazing ones. likewise now, although im sure as the scene grows it'll be more economically viable to bring out a standard tune

but there are enough weak post-2step tunes, its important to remember that

so my thought... its not dead, its growing older, changing, however you want to put it... there are definately still substantial areas of excitement and creativity

[pablex]

Secondly, I'm starting to wonder if Dubstep didn't die already the moment the name was coined.

not commenting on the original post here but i find it a pitty that once a name is set people think the music's bounded to rules.
you'll get people producing a "****" (fill in any genre) track instead of actually MUSIC.
don't let a name get between you and originality

[elgato]

Apart from that, I'm a little dubious as to whether its a real scene like grime is. Seems a little artificial to me, like its all just a fuss created on the internet. But maybe thats how all new forms are gonna develop now?

think that thats a silly thing to say, even as devils advocate...

think some hard work would have to be done to come with an objective definition of 'scene' which no-one can dispute, and with that exclude the fwd movement etc!

[boomnoise]

its all good seckle. interesting comments to be honest. where as pronoucing it's death after 2006's reach and impact may be somewhat premature, there are certainly new factors affecting the sound which warrant debate. let it ensue...

[deapoh]

Fuck off. Listen to your dnb thats prob more diverse for you init.

[elgato]

its all good seckle. interesting comments to be honest. where as pronoucing it's death after 2006's reach and impact may be somewhat premature, there are certainly new factors affecting the sound which warrant debate. let it ensue...

seconded

its all good having loads of posts just of info or general celebration but debate and critique are healthy i reckon

[boomnoise]

Fuck off. Listen to your dnb thats prob more diverse for you init.

that's not the most contructive response deaps!

[seckle]

its all good seckle. interesting comments to be honest. where as pronoucing it's death after 2006's reach and impact may be somewhat premature, there are certainly new factors affecting the sound which warrant debate. let it ensue...

Critique is important. Criticism is important. Creating a gigantic monster thread as your 4th post on a forum; may or may not be the way forward.
It's not the first time we've seen it, so it's all good. Bring it on.

[boomnoise]

well, let's just call it a rather brave plunge into the deep end!

[forensix (mcr)]

there are certainly new factors affecting the sound which warrant debate. let it ensue...

god forbid this becomes another 2step v half step debate

[Jubz]

Well I'm still loving dubstep only if I stop loving it will it be dead for me.

[kion]

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