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It seems that 95% or more of modern dubstep is just wobbly garbage.

The only dance music I listened too for the longest time was D&B. I had heard dubstep several times and each time I heard it, it was the wobble shit. So I tossed it aside and stuck to D&B.

Then I heard this mix a few weeks ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7-elsip ... annel_page

I was instantly blown away and now I'm a huge fan of this stuff. Upon further investigation, I found more of this sound (deep, intelligent, no fucking wobble).

Having to weed through all the garbage to get to the good shit is a pain in the arse.

So I ask... Why the fuck is everyone so goddamn fascinated with wobble? Don't you guys ever get sick of it?

Not this again...

BlizzardMusic wrote:Not this again...

has this been done before? sorry, but I was too frustrated to use the search function.

none of the stuff i make contains wobbles

The_Dza88 wrote:none of the stuff i make contains wobbles

peeps need to get off the wobble or dubstep will go the same route jungle did. stagnant.

Peeps have.

What classes as a wobble anymore? take a listen to my stuff is that wobble?

I got bored of drum&bass back in '97 when everyone started producing shitty jump up with no character or soul, I guess it's along the same lines that excessive wobble falls. It's what happens when people start lapping up a formulaic sound and accepting it for more than it is. But without those people (read: mongs) the world would stagnate under all the beard stroking done whilst listening to Tom Jenkinson, Richard D James, and Autechre. Not that I don't like the occassional beard fondling moment, but generally in private, late at night, with some candles...

This thread makes me feel guilty. Really though I think there's so many new 'bedroom producers' getting into it right now that the wobble just attracts attention, and it really is fun when you first start making wobbled tunes.

I wouldn't even call the clip you posted Dubstep apart from near the end.

That stuff stinks of Detroit Techno.

Alot of older DnB tunes had wobble as well, they just didn't go as deep into the sub bass with the wobble and kept it into the mid range. It was more subtle.

If it sells, people are going to make it, en masse. Pick any genre of music that has been around longer than five years and something similar happened to it. One sound seems to become the formula which sells. How many disco house toons were cranked out in the mid 90s with a looped 4 beat sample from some old soul track with hellish ammounts of filter applied to it? How many records were pumped out with only TR909 drums and TB303 synth noises during that same time period? Those of us who liked the dubby bassey house back then were singing the same tune.

if you think that 95% of dubstep has wobble then you can gtfo

Track on right turntable at 4:00 sounds french but is still House/Techno but with Detroit influences.

The last record is the only one I would call Dubstep.

Serox wrote:I wouldn't even call the clip you posted Dubstep apart from near the end.

That stuff stinks of Detroit Techno.

me either.
martyn, 2562 all that type stuff. i don't get how it is called dubstep. much closer to detroit techno to my ears and i grew up listening to detroit techno.

From a DJing point of view the wobbly stuff is better for crowds becuase it's exciting when played on a loud system. The only place you could get away with the stuff you posted in the video would be an upmarket wine/cocktail bar or an outside chillout tent at a festival or something.

I do like deep techno'ey type stuff, but if you want to play nightclubs you need to put on heavier, more 'accessable' type stuff.

Caeraphym wrote:I got bored of drum&bass back in '97 when everyone started producing shitty jump up with no character or soul.

yeah! like Warhead, Shadowboxing and Your Sound!

DROKKR wrote:

Serox wrote:I wouldn't even call the clip you posted Dubstep apart from near the end.

That stuff stinks of Detroit Techno.

me either.
martyn, 2562 all that type stuff. i don't get how it is called dubstep. much closer to detroit techno to my ears and i grew up listening to detroit techno.

Wow, it's almost like some dubstep people are into diversity and not pigeonholing themselves or something...

DROKKR wrote:
me either.
martyn, 2562 all that type stuff. i don't get how it is called dubstep. much closer to detroit techno to my ears and i grew up listening to detroit techno.

I think it is becuase Dubstep producers dont really have much of an idea about Techno.

I only started to hear Martyn/2562 very recently and I spotted a few classic Techno tune samples so they must have been into that.

There are like 8 posts on this thread and no1 has pointed out that the tracks in the mix are not Dubstep? I know Dubstep is quite open but that is Techno.