Someone help me out with W---y

clovework · Post by **clovework** » Tue May 05, 2009 6:55 pm

New user here, just curious....why/how did Wonky become "the genre that dare not speak its name"? I heard about alot of really good artists through Martin Clark's article on Pitchfork, but now I see all these posts and blogs saying that it's not really a genre, just an "adjective"...I'm a bit confused. Can someone fill me in?

2tall · Post by **2tall** » Tue May 05, 2009 8:08 pm

basically the consensus is.. would you want you're music to be classified as "wonky".. its kind of a stupid name for a genre.

adjective is... well. meh.. really.

the producers doing this stuff pretty much all are against that term, i can sympathise myself.

wonky to me conjures up the image of a semi.. get me!

i like the term offbeat myself

skywave · Post by **skywave** » Tue May 05, 2009 8:56 pm

for me "wonky" gets lobbed in the same bin as the ketamine stigma attached to similar sorts of music by media types, its a shame ...
no, its a fucking disgrace

clovework · Post by **clovework** » Tue May 05, 2009 11:53 pm

K, gotcha. Wonky is a silly name for a genre. "Offbeat" does make a bit more sense...and yeah, that Simon Reynolds article is pretty stupid.

constrobuz · Post by **constrobuz** » Wed May 06, 2009 12:08 am

"offbeat" is even more retarded and i bet you'd dislike it if people started using it.

jimjim6 · Post by **jimjim6** » Wed May 06, 2009 7:21 am

wonky has been used loads to describe music (wonky pop). getting pissed off at it is just a trendy way to appear anti-trendy. conforming to non-formality,if you will.

mrbeatnick · Post by **mrbeatnick** » Wed May 06, 2009 7:58 am

it's not a genre, it doesn't exist. cake is a made up drug, wonky is a made up genre.

ojo · Post by **ojo** » Wed May 06, 2009 8:46 am

jimjim6 wrote:wonky has been used loads to describe music (wonky pop). getting pissed off at it is just a trendy way to appear anti-trendy. conforming to non-formality,if you will.

Eh? not for me. I just think it sounds like a shit name.

Surely you can't have people going about saying they're a wonky producer

miscreant · Post by **miscreant** » Wed May 06, 2009 9:00 am

Glitch-hop is surely the proper name for it? Sounds like a genre, sounds like the music, is relative to where the genre came from and it doesnt make you think of bent boners or ketamine.

mrbeatnick · Post by **mrbeatnick** » Wed May 06, 2009 9:12 am

glitch-hop sounds fuckin awful

this "scene" isn't about doing the same thing as the next man or making sound alike records to create a genre with a catchy name. if you're doin that you haven't got what it's about. just do your own thing, and file it under what you want to call it. i call mine "rabid dub hop flex" or "rabbit poop".

miscreant · Post by **miscreant** » Wed May 06, 2009 9:37 am

mrbeatnick wrote:glitch-hop sounds fuckin awful

this "scene" isn't about doing the same thing as the next man or making sound alike records to create a genre with a catchy name. if you're doin that you haven't got what it's about. just do your own thing, and file it under what you want to call it. i call mine "rabid dub hop flex" or "rabbit poop".

I dunno, glitch-hop is a pretty fitting name imo. Doing your own thing doesnt necessarily mean having to create a new genre with every song you make, if anything i quite like artists keeping within a certain style as i know what to expect when i listen to them - i'm not saying dont do things differently but dont try and be different at the sake of making good music people actually want to listen to.

and come on mate calling your style of music rabbit poop isnt doing you any favours.

2tall · Post by **2tall** » Wed May 06, 2009 9:39 am

jimjim6 wrote:wonky has been used loads to describe music (wonky pop). getting pissed off at it is just a trendy way to appear anti-trendy. conforming to non-formality,if you will.

yeah taking it seriously makes you just as bad as the label itself.

i don't really make "wonky" music so i really have no say in any of it

jimjim6 · Post by **jimjim6** » Wed May 06, 2009 1:10 pm

mrbeatnick wrote:it's not a genre, it doesn't exist. cake is a made up drug, wonky is a made up genre.

with a screen name such as 'Beatnik' - surly the irony of what you just said isn't lost on you?

mrbeatnick · Post by **mrbeatnick** » Wed May 06, 2009 2:05 pm

i dunno, what's in a name, a rose by any other.. etc etc

"getting pissed off with it is a trendy way to appear untrendy". No. i just don't think the music is "wonky" or is a genre or a microscene or that any of that way of thinking is at all worthwhile. best to forget about trying to give everything a name, a place and a rack on the shelf and enjoy it for what it is, a bunch of people just having a muck around with some music. most of the artists involved don't sound like each other in any case. I don't know why people feel the need to categorise things so intently nowadays.

kapital · Post by **kapital** » Wed May 06, 2009 3:16 pm

I don't think glitch-hop fits. Like FlyLo isn't glitch hop

ppl should just use "Experimental" broadly to cover weird sounding shit.

clovework · Post by **clovework** » Wed May 06, 2009 3:40 pm

Kapital wrote:I don't think glitch-hop fits. Like FlyLo isn't glitch hop

ppl should just use "Experimental" broadly to cover weird sounding shit.

But surely "experimental" might be too broad of a label for some stuff? I dunno, if someone was to recommend some exp. electronic music, I would think of something like, say, Fennesz or the like. Ask a group of people about what they think experimental is, and you'd probably get a different answer for each one...

saphyre · Post by **saphyre** » Wed May 06, 2009 4:02 pm

It cant be denied that there is a new 'scene' emerging from this music, for me i think wonky is used as a term for the scene, rather than as a name for the type of music itself .... like 'indie'

skywave · Post by **skywave** » Wed May 06, 2009 9:06 pm

indie as in the independent labels scene from the 80s or the current poppy chart guitar music?

saphyre · Post by **saphyre** » Thu May 07, 2009 6:29 am

indie as an umbrella term for all the music associated with that scene

slugabed · Post by **slugabed** » Thu May 07, 2009 9:51 am

either way its pretty fuckin ace music

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