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please help defend the honour of kazakhstan. many thanks.

get the fuck out. you don't understand his means

the guestbook is particularly mint:

http://www.stopborat.com/advancedguestbook/index.php

making this deary monday more bearable anyway

"KAZAKSTAN IS NOT PRIMITIVE COUNTRY. WE HAVE 7 POOLS. WITH 2 FILLED TO THE TOP"

Ha ha ha ha ha.

borats da man check


http://www.myspace.com/borat

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this website and borat are both seriously unfunny.

i havent seen the film, but on tv i thought borat was incredible. ive been very confused by this whole furor of late, as i remember it, the character was a vehicle to expose the madness at the heart of our society, as well as the ignorance of the public with whom he engaged...

irresponsible yes, but many in the media / politics seem to have perceived him as just directly rinsing a helpless developing country at the pleasure of the west?!

i always saw the silly lines about how brass kazakhstan is as (a) a means to draw particular responses from the interviewees, and (b) a minor (secondary) exercise in surreal comedy

is it not the case that this film in america is in fact a critique of american attitudes rather than purile silliness (regardless of how its interpreted)

but it seems that perhaps now the emphasis has shifted, i dont know

it was alright for 5 minute intervals during Ali G show cos it was a bit funnier than the rest of his show but this is definetly too much

Baron Cohen is a clever guy, i'm surprised it doesnt bother him thath he's genuinely being off-key with this Borat shit

that website is wack though

This is great. Thanks.

I am 110% pro-borat. Why all the fuss?

weird how in todays climate he doesnt get labelled as outwardly racist !!!!!

Alex bk-bk wrote:weird how in todays climate he doesnt get labelled as outwardly racist !!!!!

exactly. for me this is no different to the outrageous race sterotypes of the 70s. why is he getting away with it? perhaps becayse he's middle class? i just don't think it's very intelligently done, he raises no valid point.

and i am very much a fan of this style of comedy if it's is executed properly without the protagonist becoming just as bad as the people he's trying to ridicule.

Alex bk-bk wrote:weird how in todays climate he doesnt get labelled as outwardly racist !!!!!

Doesn't mean he actually is racist though- a lot of nonsense in 'todays climate', far too many moral crusaders out there looking for a target to accuse of some crime against correctness

I am not a shit, please.

to me, it seemed that previously his point was look how ignorant and narrow-minded these people are! if it was a sketch show it'd be different, but most of the point for me is the reaction he draws from his interviewees

in a similar sense that brass eye operated (in some senses)...why should chris morris be accepted despite his homophobia, glorification of paedophilia etc? because he's not actually homophobic, he's using it as a vehicle to highlight and criticise prevalent, backwards attitudes from various elements of society

i agree that its very irresponsible, especially in todays climate. i also accept that the film may not be about this anymore, but just money-spinning and cheap laughs, i dunno i havent seen it yet.

but it seems that borat as a character, and as comedy, is more complex than is being made out...

100% Good. Even in Russia.

i'm loving borat's sketches and improp interview stuff.
it's because he gets people to react or co-act on his naive, racist, sexist and anti-modern-society thoughts and manners.
and his speech ofcourse

one example why his offensive stuff is accepted: Cohen is a jew himself, so by making very jew-offending statements he earns some sort of credit.
so you know he's not for real, the people who agree with him, or join him with whatever offending stuff he's doing, are the one's who are in the wrong.
one time he got this guy started rattling about how jews are the evil in society, and that the germans had a good solution, and that you should be able to hunt jews nowadays (he was an (extinct) animal hunter.)
and still Cohen keeps his cool.

same thing with Bruno (the Australian Gay-TV/fashion reporter)
because he becomes the gay person, and doesn't act weird for his role, he isn't directly the one who is making fun of/offending homosexuals.

i don't know how the movie will be, but i'm afraid it doesn't have that real, twisted feeling, 'peeps don't know what's happening' vibe, because there is some stuff which is staged, and the tricks about horse-urine or pedofilism and all are a bit worn out.

i also read that he got a contract to make a movie with the Bruno character.. but i thing that's gonna work even less than a full Borat movie.

boomnoise wrote: perhaps becayse he's middle class?

hehehe someone's been reading k-punk!
busteeeed!