threads being moved / deleted

ramadanman · Post by **ramadanman** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:26 am

this seems to be happening an increasing amount. obviously in some cases, i agree, but some decisions just seem rather strange....i think the moderation is getting slightly over zealous...

deamonds · Post by **deamonds** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:51 am

ramadanman wrote:this seems to be happening an increasing amount. obviously in some cases, i agree, but some decisions just seem rather strange....i think the moderation is getting slightly over zealous...

....(i do agree however)

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:05 am

Yeah, have noticed that lately. Latest one seems to have been moved for moaning which seems to be a bit shite. By that reckoning half the forum might get removed.

joseph-j · Post by **joseph-j** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:27 am

I don't think its too bad. Most of the threads that get locked down or removed are either 10 pages of pointless whinging or 10 pages of pointless bitching.

So unless you're a whingey bitch, its not a problem.

thinking · Post by **thinking** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:58 am

completely agree, I would prefer a more laissez-faire attitude until things actually get nasty.

I can understand that this is a DUBSTEPforum and they want to keep it as 'on-topic' as possible, and also to reflect the music/scene in a positive light, but heavy-handed moderation stops it feeling so much like a 'community', more just a place to drop in and pick up/share info.

pangaea · Post by **pangaea** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:01 am

Moderator wrote:It's been tucked away for a few days, because 9 pages is enough moaning for a week. It'll be back soon.

Lame. Not what I want from moderator(s?) at all.

dvnt · Post by **dvnt** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:13 am

Mr Hyde wrote:Yeah the fact its 9 pages long shows its something people want to read about and reply to, no need for telling people what they should or shouldnt discuss. Let people slag each other off if they want to, if someone specifically asks a mod to shut an offencive or threatening thread down then I guess do it then, but its an internet forum- no need for this heavy parenting/policing just when things are getting interesting and a bit heated or isnt a view you share, freedom of speach= freedom to piss people off!

Lilly Allen hating, Kode 9 writing critisising, Moaning threads or whatever are the most interesting discussions- thats why they go on for loads of pages.

defo agree with that

luke.envoy · Post by **luke.envoy** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:33 am

Pangaea wrote:
Moderator wrote:It's been tucked away for a few days, because 9 pages is enough moaning for a week. It'll be back soon.
Lame. Not what I want from moderator(s?) at all.

im behind the mod on this 1, i dont wanna see a forum full of whining and bitching dressed as music debate

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:49 am

luke.envoy wrote:
Pangaea wrote:
Moderator wrote:It's been tucked away for a few days, because 9 pages is enough moaning for a week. It'll be back soon.
Lame. Not what I want from moderator(s?) at all.
im behind the mod on this 1, i dont wanna see a forum full of whining and bitching dressed as music debate

Who decides what's whining and bitching though? I understand if that's all there is to it, but most discussions on here are just people expressing different viewpoints - it's pretty derogatory to forum members that might feel differently that any negative comment, no matter how well substantiated, that there opinion is seen as just "whining".

If we took that away we'd just have an endless circle jerk to whichever latest platter's getting rinsed.

alex bk-bk · Post by **alex bk-bk** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:56 am

due to the amount of members obviously everyone is gonna have their 5 pence to stick in on a contraversial issue

so why delete and move threads that are obviously attracting people attention?

this evangelising of dubstep is ridiculous, if people have complaints to voice then they should be able to do so here primarily. this isnt a PR outlet. Or rather it sort of is nowadays, but it shouldnt be.

anyway im not that bothered, as i feel very jaded about this place already. just wish there were more blogs around with intelligent discussions going on, like a few years back.

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:17 pm

Alex bk-bk wrote: this evangelising of dubstep is ridiculous, if people have complaints to voice then they should be able to do so here primarily. this isnt a PR outlet. Or rather it sort of is nowadays, but it shouldnt be.

The Losing Interest thread in particular (ironically) was one of the more interesting reads to show up in a while. Some good points were put on both sides. I think the forum as a whole seems to be getting a tad less lively due to some debates being stifled. Quite where ignoring the opinions of the audience (let alone deriding them)is going to get the scene is anyone's guess.

And don't go Alex, we need those opinions here.

deamonds · Post by **deamonds** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:20 pm

Alex bk-bk wrote: this evangelising of dubstep is ridiculous, if people have complaints to voice then they should be able to do so here primarily. this isnt a PR outlet. Or rather it sort of is nowadays, but it shouldnt be.

truest words ive seen on this forum 4 a LONG while

narcossist · Post by **narcossist** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:40 pm

Alex bk-bk wrote: this evangelising of dubstep is ridiculous, if people have complaints to voice then they should be able to do so here primarily. this isnt a PR outlet. Or rather it sort of is nowadays, but it shouldnt be.

anyway im not that bothered, as i feel very jaded about this place already. just wish there were more blogs around with intelligent discussions going on, like a few years back.

yeah agreed, whatever happened to the "'llow the haters" attitude? Not saying that hate is the right word really, just that presenting a veener of unanimous opinion is a] a bit weird and b] making this place boringly repetative.

adruu · Post by **adruu** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:58 pm

Yeah I agree with alex. I thought the losing interest thing and kode9 threads were both good reads.

Someone is happy on the trigger finger...

ms hathaway · Post by **ms hathaway** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:24 pm

i didnt even realize the "losing interest" thread got censored. and i do agree that it seems to be at the whim of the moderators.

on all the other boards ive ever belonged to, threads dont get locked until actual offensive statements are being made. i. e. slander, racial slurs, threats. unless i missed something, i didnt see any of that in the "losing interest thread" or in the kode9 thread, which i actually was enjoying reading. makes things rather boring to know that debate gets squashed here.

hell, i expect that by about page 4 of this thread, will see the little lock symbol.

marsyas · Post by **marsyas** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:45 pm

Shonky wrote:half the forum might get removed.

cool !!

Jubz · Post by **Jubz** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:50 pm

Heads are overreacting a bit here. You can hardly call it a squashing of debate when threads have reached 10-15 pages or more and have been sitting on the forum for a few days to a week. The arguments just get recycled and recycled by people that post and dont read the whole thread (something im good at), most of the time everything that could be said has been said by page 3 anyway. Its not a big deal.

ms hathaway · Post by **ms hathaway** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:36 pm

Jubscarz wrote:Heads are overreacting a bit here. You can hardly call it a squashing of debate when threads have reached 10-15 pages or more and have been sitting on the forum for a few days to a week. The arguments just get recycled and recycled by people that post and dont read the whole thread (something im good at), most of the time everything that could be said has been said by page 3 anyway. Its not a big deal.

i hear what you are saying, but at the same time, if you see a thread that is wace, you certainly dont have to read it. however if someone thinks they still have something to contribute to it, they have no choice if its shut down.

believe me, there are some i think go too long, but i just skip over them. i dont know if shutting them down is the right way to go, its like forcing discretion.

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