Absolute beginner

.onelove. · Post by **.onelove.** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:40 pm

I see a lot of help threads on production emphasis the need for extra equipment to use with FL/Logic. But it seems a big risk to spend that much on something you may be absolutely hopeless at.

What would be the bare minimum I could use at first to see if theres actually any point in me getting more advanced technology, would simply some software + a MIDI keyboard suffice?

DZA · Post by **DZA** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:41 pm

A daw

osky · Post by **osky** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:25 pm

all u really need is the software and headphones/speakers to hear what your making... amature as fuck but we all have to start somwhere. firstly
google a lot it helps. espcially for informations. anyway theres many different DAWs about. just make sure u don't smoke crack, number one rule in producing.

ascii · Post by **ascii** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:28 pm

Osky wrote:all u really need is the software and headphones/speakers to hear what your making... amature as fuck but we all have to start somwhere. firstly
google a lot it helps. espcially for informations. anyway theres many different DAWs about. just make sure u don't smoke crack, number one rule in producing.

I see DOWNLOAD what A CRACKED you TORRENT DAW did there!

.onelove. · Post by **.onelove.** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:32 pm

hah I got that far lads, hence why i referenced FL in my intial post

but is that software just enough?

DZA · Post by **DZA** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:35 pm

Osky wrote:all u really need is the software and headphones/speakers to hear what your making... amature as fuck but we all have to start somwhere. firstly
google a lot it helps. espcially for informations. anyway theres many different DAWs about. just make sure u don't smoke crack, number one rule in producing.

osky · Post by **osky** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:59 pm

its enough to get you started yeh get a nice sample base and

whatever you do do not ever search for a NI massive crack or albino3 crack whatever you do cos thats stealing and wrong and naughty and bad, dont do drugs either its bad for you. its a must u pay for the privlege to use these VSTs.

gl on your quest!

zion cluster · Post by **zion cluster** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:13 pm

I think the best thing about fls, reason and all this stuff is that you can make passable tunes, and learn lots about producing. Think of it more like leaning techniques than learning software. YOU DON'T NEED LOADS OF WARE(Z) TO MAKE GOOD TUNES. A half decent comp, FLS and some speakers is it.

Plus, read the bible and the gain structure threads.

Good luck and happy tunage

antics · Post by **antics** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:13 pm

you'll be fine with just FL for the minute, i used it to start with... just go find some tutorials on youtube...

hurlingdervish · Post by **hurlingdervish** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:22 pm

.OneLove. wrote:hah I got that far lads, hence why i referenced FL in my intial post

but is that software just enough?

you can make anything youve heard in the dubstep genre inside FL studio. i dont use it anymore, but its definately really powerful by itself. no need for plugins dont go chasing that ghost, all you need is the 3Xosc. you will need good drum samples though the stock ones are shit.

step 1. learn about synthesis

step 2. get samples

step 3. get familiar with different rythms in the step sequencer

step 4. get familiar with scales and notes

step 5. apply steps 3 and 4's knoweldge into the piano roll

step 6. experiment with automation

step 7. EXPERIMENTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

google.com · Post by **google.com** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:24 pm

FL first and then graduate to Reason.

step correct · Post by **step correct** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:30 pm

Get some monitors bro.

hurlingdervish · Post by **hurlingdervish** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:33 pm

Google.com wrote:FL first and then graduate to Reason.

more of a step down really.

things that take 5 seconds in FL take 5 minutes in reason

reason does have nice multisamples though

ascii · Post by **ascii** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:36 pm

Google.com wrote:FL first and then graduate to Cubase on PC or Logic on Mac.

fixed

.onelove. · Post by **.onelove.** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:37 pm

Much appreciate the replies, i half expected sarcy answers since my question was a bit vague and general

but yeah i'll obtain FL, read up on production then have a play around with it, then see where i go from there

cheers

hurlingdervish · Post by **hurlingdervish** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:40 pm

ASCII wrote:
Google.com wrote:FL first and then graduate to a DAW with an ugly interface like cubase for pc or logic on mac
fixed

double fixed

j-sh · Post by **j-sh** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:44 pm

All you really need is ideas. Like if you have a strong and persistant desire to produce and make tunes then it will all come together. you'll have an idea, then think well how do i make this sound or that sound or how do i make a tune with energy or a mellow tune and as you overcome those hurdles of how to get your ideas out eventually youll eventually rack up the skills/knowledge/gear you need to get ideas out quickly and easily.

start of a piano or something, like if you've never made music before

futures_untold · Post by **futures_untold** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:58 pm

ASCII wrote:
Google.com wrote:Reaper first and then you're sorted for life.
fixed

Triple fixed

Seriously, get Reaper which has an unlimited 'demo'. No cracks needed and it is cheaper than any of the other 'big ones'. It is also infinately simpler than the likes of Cubase, and doesn't require a dongle or any gouchment like that.....

To compliment Reaper, get some freeware VST plugins. This combination will be all you will ever need.

To help out people like you, I compiled a free set of music production software. It includes everything you need to start out, including an audio sequencer, audio editor, synths, samplers and FX. ---> http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t ... highlight=

If you decide that you really do enjoy producing music, buy a midi keyboard, a specialist soundcard, a mic and some studio monitors. Finally, if you're really really serious, upgrade all your hardware and convert your spare room into a studio.

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